Do you feel like YOU contributed to their decision?
Do you feel proud of them?
Is that a goal that you set for them?
What if they decide NOT to get baptised....where do you go from there?
JWs....How does it make you feel when your child or bible study gets baptised?
I asked my bible teacher how she felt when I got baptized and she said that she felt happy that i dedicated my life to Jehovah and that she had a part on it.
And when i was inactive she was always encouraging me to come back.
Reply:I feel overjoyed when anyone gets baptised even if I do not know them. If someone chooses not to get baptised it is between them and God. I pray for them. I do tell them what the bible says about it and that Jesus commanded us to do it but then I let them decide when they are ready. So if they are not ready just pray for them and love them. You do not lose your salvation over it. Our goal should be Matthew 28:19-20 Go therefore into all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father , Son and Holy Spirit. Teach them all that God has commanded and He will be with you until the end of the age. We should be out there sharing the gospel with everyone that is the great commission. My goal is for people to get saved and then let God's word teach them what to do.
Reply:What are JWs?
Tuesday, July 20, 2010
Christian Bible Study for my Husband?
He became a Christian as a child and has heard all the bible stories but never experienced a mature relationship with God. Any suggestions?
Christian Bible Study for my Husband?
I suggest that he go to Dr. Charles Stanley's website and read through the Bible studies there. Dr. Stanley is a faithful teacher of Scripture and is very personable, which helps in the learning process. Your husband may also be interested in watching Dr. Stanley's weekly tv sermon; the show is called "In Touch."
There are a few godly preachers out there, but there are many, many more that are teaching garbage. If your husband is very young in his faith, make sure that a mature Christian reviews the study materials before he begins reading. Stay away from the Watchtower website, as was recommended by one of the answerers -- it's the website for the Jehovah's Witnesses, which is a non-Christian cult. I would also caution you against giving him 'The Purpose Driven Life,' since the pastor who wrote this book isn't doctrinally orthodox.
I've given a few trustworthy websites below.
Reply:Much of the Bible is how you intemperate it. It is what it means to a particular person. There is no set meaning for all of the Bible. Sure, there are some commonly accepted interpretations of the major passages, but the over all, deepest meaning is personal. If he is having trouble, he can try a Bible Study class. Almost any church has some form of Bible study outside of the actual service (which can also help).
In the end, a mature relationship with God can only be reached on an individual level. He can receive help and guidance from other people, but he must ultimately reach the relationship himself.
Reply:I have the Rainbow Study Bible, New International Version. I bought it on eBay after getting quite a few recommendations. Mine has a burgundy leatherette cover though. It can be bought on Amazon too.
I consider it the best going, but am anxious to see the rest of the answers.
http://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Study-Bibl...
Reply:Better to leave him go about his own devices.
He doesn't need a study. If he wants to read the bible, and is ready to take it in, he will.
If he does not want to, or is not open to taking it in, a study could do more damage than good.
The bottom line is that when people are pushed, they can push back further in retaliation.
Reply:He should spend time in the Word daily reading his Bible, praying and spending time alone with God, and be at church learning His Word. That's the only way to build a relationship with God.
Also check out some books at www.calvarychapel.org or listen to the radio teachings.
Reply:Here's a website that teaches the meaning of every verse of every Book of the Bible: http://www.soniclight.com/constable/note...
He can start with something like the Book of John, and read along with the Bible study. Enjoy :)
Reply:I suggest Andrew Wommack Ministries on the Internet. Perry Stone's Manna-Fest Ministries, J.R. Church and Gary Stearman's Prophecy in the News on the Internet.
This is a good variety of Bible believing men.
Reply:For a beginner, Try "Experiencing God" by Henry Blackaby. Its a six week study, 5 days a week. Take about 30-45min each day.
Reply:I don't know of a Bible study exactly but I think the Purpose Driven life focuses on this relationship and interaction with God.
Reply:Hello, Glad you ask.
Free home Bible Study...
http://www.watchtower.org/
Both you and your husband can learn and have a personal relationship with God.
Wonderful!! John 17:3
Have a great day!
Reply:Does he want a closer relationship? Or do you want him to? If he wants one he'll search and God will find him. If he doesn't...leave him alone.
Reply:please send me your location, and I will send you the nearest church that holds weekly bible study for beginners
mrch2007@yahoo.ca
God bless
Reply:Does he WANT to get more involved in religion? If so, he should speak with a religious leader that he trusts. If not, why are you asking?
Reply:Pray together, fellowship with other christians. Pray and read your bible, it will come
Reply:all you have 2 do is accept god as lord and savior and you will be ok.
Reply:For a free home bible study, go to www.watchtower.org.
Reply:Have him read Asimov's Guide to the Bible.
Reply:Tell him to pray.
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Christian Bible Study for my Husband?
I suggest that he go to Dr. Charles Stanley's website and read through the Bible studies there. Dr. Stanley is a faithful teacher of Scripture and is very personable, which helps in the learning process. Your husband may also be interested in watching Dr. Stanley's weekly tv sermon; the show is called "In Touch."
There are a few godly preachers out there, but there are many, many more that are teaching garbage. If your husband is very young in his faith, make sure that a mature Christian reviews the study materials before he begins reading. Stay away from the Watchtower website, as was recommended by one of the answerers -- it's the website for the Jehovah's Witnesses, which is a non-Christian cult. I would also caution you against giving him 'The Purpose Driven Life,' since the pastor who wrote this book isn't doctrinally orthodox.
I've given a few trustworthy websites below.
Reply:Much of the Bible is how you intemperate it. It is what it means to a particular person. There is no set meaning for all of the Bible. Sure, there are some commonly accepted interpretations of the major passages, but the over all, deepest meaning is personal. If he is having trouble, he can try a Bible Study class. Almost any church has some form of Bible study outside of the actual service (which can also help).
In the end, a mature relationship with God can only be reached on an individual level. He can receive help and guidance from other people, but he must ultimately reach the relationship himself.
Reply:I have the Rainbow Study Bible, New International Version. I bought it on eBay after getting quite a few recommendations. Mine has a burgundy leatherette cover though. It can be bought on Amazon too.
I consider it the best going, but am anxious to see the rest of the answers.
http://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Study-Bibl...
Reply:Better to leave him go about his own devices.
He doesn't need a study. If he wants to read the bible, and is ready to take it in, he will.
If he does not want to, or is not open to taking it in, a study could do more damage than good.
The bottom line is that when people are pushed, they can push back further in retaliation.
Reply:He should spend time in the Word daily reading his Bible, praying and spending time alone with God, and be at church learning His Word. That's the only way to build a relationship with God.
Also check out some books at www.calvarychapel.org or listen to the radio teachings.
Reply:Here's a website that teaches the meaning of every verse of every Book of the Bible: http://www.soniclight.com/constable/note...
He can start with something like the Book of John, and read along with the Bible study. Enjoy :)
Reply:I suggest Andrew Wommack Ministries on the Internet. Perry Stone's Manna-Fest Ministries, J.R. Church and Gary Stearman's Prophecy in the News on the Internet.
This is a good variety of Bible believing men.
Reply:For a beginner, Try "Experiencing God" by Henry Blackaby. Its a six week study, 5 days a week. Take about 30-45min each day.
Reply:I don't know of a Bible study exactly but I think the Purpose Driven life focuses on this relationship and interaction with God.
Reply:Hello, Glad you ask.
Free home Bible Study...
http://www.watchtower.org/
Both you and your husband can learn and have a personal relationship with God.
Wonderful!! John 17:3
Have a great day!
Reply:Does he want a closer relationship? Or do you want him to? If he wants one he'll search and God will find him. If he doesn't...leave him alone.
Reply:please send me your location, and I will send you the nearest church that holds weekly bible study for beginners
mrch2007@yahoo.ca
God bless
Reply:Does he WANT to get more involved in religion? If so, he should speak with a religious leader that he trusts. If not, why are you asking?
Reply:Pray together, fellowship with other christians. Pray and read your bible, it will come
Reply:all you have 2 do is accept god as lord and savior and you will be ok.
Reply:For a free home bible study, go to www.watchtower.org.
Reply:Have him read Asimov's Guide to the Bible.
Reply:Tell him to pray.
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Bible Study at Public Schools, Legal or illegal?
it would be voluntary, and after school.
Bible Study at Public Schools, Legal or illegal?
legal if students are organizing it
Reply:Generally legal, because it is NOT forced and it is not during the normal day. The only thing I could see making it illegal is what funds it. If it is using public school FUNDING from the GOVERNMENT, then it might have implications...but if it's from a student fund, or a PSA Fund, then it's perfectly allowed.
Reply:i think legal, as long as its voluntary and not during school hours, and i think it shouldn't count towards or against your gpa, like how some schools have extra optional after school classes that can give you extra credits towards your units to graduate. if its like a club, i mean that should be legal.
Reply:It's legal, infact in my high school , (publich school in Brooklyn, NY), that was offered as an English class and many students took it and loved it.
Reply:Religion and school are a very odd couple. i think that they should be separated just to avoid stepping on toes because reagardless what you do someone is gonna be mad.
i think illegal
Reply:Probably someone will stroke out over the use of a public building for Bible study. Some people have nothing better to do than to police the world for ways to make it worse!
Reply:If students organize themselves in a club or group, it's fine.
If not, then it's completely illegal.
Reply:legal even during school if students come to you. you can not try to breing students in only if they want to
Reply:Perfectly legal as a voluntary, extracurricular activity.
Reply:It's legal in some states.
Reply:Legal
Reply:legal. just make sure you have a strong amount of people backing you up! you cant force people either.
Reply:Legal.
Reply:Legal! I see no problem with this...
Bible Study at Public Schools, Legal or illegal?
legal if students are organizing it
Reply:Generally legal, because it is NOT forced and it is not during the normal day. The only thing I could see making it illegal is what funds it. If it is using public school FUNDING from the GOVERNMENT, then it might have implications...but if it's from a student fund, or a PSA Fund, then it's perfectly allowed.
Reply:i think legal, as long as its voluntary and not during school hours, and i think it shouldn't count towards or against your gpa, like how some schools have extra optional after school classes that can give you extra credits towards your units to graduate. if its like a club, i mean that should be legal.
Reply:It's legal, infact in my high school , (publich school in Brooklyn, NY), that was offered as an English class and many students took it and loved it.
Reply:Religion and school are a very odd couple. i think that they should be separated just to avoid stepping on toes because reagardless what you do someone is gonna be mad.
i think illegal
Reply:Probably someone will stroke out over the use of a public building for Bible study. Some people have nothing better to do than to police the world for ways to make it worse!
Reply:If students organize themselves in a club or group, it's fine.
If not, then it's completely illegal.
Reply:legal even during school if students come to you. you can not try to breing students in only if they want to
Reply:Perfectly legal as a voluntary, extracurricular activity.
Reply:It's legal in some states.
Reply:Legal
Reply:legal. just make sure you have a strong amount of people backing you up! you cant force people either.
Reply:Legal.
Reply:Legal! I see no problem with this...
I need a bible study book or something?
I am looking for something to help me understand the bible better. Any Ideas????
I need a bible study book or something?
You can get a FREE home Bible study.
Go to ur local Kingdom Hall,
and ask.
Or go to:
www.
watchtower.
org
Sorry, I had to put the address like this,
sometimes Y/A's doesn't let the address go thru.
Reply:Find a christian book store and ask them to recommend a study guide. Consider buying a children's book...They have a lot that will give sort of an "overview" of each book of the bible, then when you go and actually read the scripture it will help you understand.
Reply:THIS IS MY HELP AS I MUST KNOW THE TIME FRAME GOD GIVES
1Thes.5:1-9,21; All can ve known but the day and hour Matt.24:3,14,36;
At year 2513, O.T. 1110 years, 39 books, many write, done 443 before Christ.
Moses could not write Genesis, but could compile it 857 to 897 years after flood. Job was before Moses so that Moses had to compile this book also.
0222 years after flood, Terah b. Noah died Gen.9:28,29; 350 years after fld.
0205 Gen.11:32; he dies. Shem dies 502 years after flood. Gen.11:10;
------- Gen.12:4; Abraham age 75, gets Promised Land covenant and he is
0427 years after flood [ of year 1656 ]. Abraham's heirs to get the laws.
0025 Abraham age 100 Gen.21:5; Isaac is born. 452 years after flood.
0060 Isaac age 60, and heir Jacob Gen.25:26; born. 512 years after flood.
0130 age of Jacob, Gen.47:9,11; with 70 in family now in Rameses Egypt at
0642 years after the flood, 215 years after the Promised Land covenant.
0017 Gen.47:28; Jacob dies 659 years after the flood. Joseph is age 57.
0053 years life, Joseph from age 30, governor 80 years in Egypt, he dies.
0712 years after the flood. Ends Genesis 50:26; 185 years to Josh.24:32;
0065 years, Moses born, Pharoah killing all males born in family of Abraham.
0777 years after the flood, in 80 years is 215 years in Rameses Exo.12:37;
0080 age of Moses, Exodus Exo.7:7; 12:40,41; Gal.3:16-18 [ 430 years law ];
0857 years after flood to Exodus. Num.33:38,39; Priest Aaron age 123 dies.
0040 Deut.34:7; Deut,1:3; 29:5; 34:7; Prophet Judge Moses age 120 dies.
0857 years after the flood, %26amp; 40 years after the Exodus, all has the laws.
0001 Josh.5:6,10,14; 14th day in New year ends 40 years from Exodus.
0898th year after flood. Judges began in the Promised Land with Joshua.
0300 years Judges 11: 26; Jair dies.
--------1198 years after the flood for troubles.
--------Acts 13:20; 450 after Exodus Samuel age 80, 1307 years after flood.
--------1Ki.6:1; 480 years after death of Moses, 1377 years after the flood,
--------Solomon year 4, temple begun, Solomon has 36 years of 40, 1413 after
--------flood, year 3069 %26amp; 997 before Christ will be in Rome world Empire #6.
0391 years, Judah kings end, Promised Land desolate by Babylon 2Ki.25:8;
------- 1804 years after flood, year 3460, 606 before Christ in Rome Empire #6
------- Matt.1:1-17; Dan.9:2,24-27 [ Messiah first to come and be cut off ];
------- FROM BABYLON THERE WILL BE NO KING TIL JESUS 2ND COMING
2300 Dan.8:12-14; Word of truth to be circulating in the world is 1611 + 83.
2500 Dan.12:1-7; Michael of Jude 9; protects WORD %26amp; SEALED end time.
2520 Dan.12:8-10; Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; is done SATAN HAS A SHORT TIME.
2580 Dan.12:11 [2x 1290 = ] 2580 less 2520 = 60 years. 1611 + 363.
2613 ---------- is present 2007 AD or CE and 1611 + 396 Past WW1 and WW2
2670 Dan.12:12 [2x 1335 = ] 2670 less 2520 is 150 years FOR SATAN?
------- Rev.9:1-5 [5 x 30 = 150 ] Pit open for Satan, SEALED OF GOD THERE.
------- Rom.16:20; John 6:39,40,44; 14:3; APOSTLES RAISED UP %26amp; SATAN'S
------- IS DOWN %26amp; Michael is there to the end 1Thes.4:15-17; The caught up.
1000 year reign of Christ Rev.20:1-6,12,13; 1Cor.15:22-28,50-53; 2Pet.3:13;
Eph.2:7; 3:21; The world with Jesus is without end. John 3:16; 17:3;
Rev.21:1-5; All is made as new as before Eden. 8 [ second death ]; Rev.20:7-10; No more Satan 7130 years after Eden.
Reply:I would seriously recommend a NIV study application Bible as it is great and gives explanations. your Christian book store would have one. My wife and I use it all the time as I read through the King James as it helps to clarify certain points. God bless!
Reply:I agree with raenae7983 http://www.crosswalk.com is an EXCELLENT resourse to find the type of information you are seeking! As well as guide you to some terrific Study type Bibles! May the Lord bless you as you endevor to follow Him!
Reply:I love my Life Application Bible. It's a Bible with commentaries, that show you how to apply the principles of the Bible to your every day life.
You have to find one you enjoy. Go into a Christian Bookstore, and tell them what you are looking for. Then, look through the Books until you find one that YOU like.
God Bless!
Reply:You can buy a commentary, or use one online, Crosswalk.com has ones that you can use online. It will help to explain the passage that you just read. I love them!
Good luck!
Reply:You want someone else's interpretation of an oft mistranslated 2000 year old text?
Primary sources are the only sources.
Reply:bookstores carry study bibles ....
Reply:The reference above to Crosswalk.com is the best online source I have found. Also, you can download stuff from Esword.net.
I need a bible study book or something?
You can get a FREE home Bible study.
Go to ur local Kingdom Hall,
and ask.
Or go to:
www.
watchtower.
org
Sorry, I had to put the address like this,
sometimes Y/A's doesn't let the address go thru.
Reply:Find a christian book store and ask them to recommend a study guide. Consider buying a children's book...They have a lot that will give sort of an "overview" of each book of the bible, then when you go and actually read the scripture it will help you understand.
Reply:THIS IS MY HELP AS I MUST KNOW THE TIME FRAME GOD GIVES
1Thes.5:1-9,21; All can ve known but the day and hour Matt.24:3,14,36;
At year 2513, O.T. 1110 years, 39 books, many write, done 443 before Christ.
Moses could not write Genesis, but could compile it 857 to 897 years after flood. Job was before Moses so that Moses had to compile this book also.
0222 years after flood, Terah b. Noah died Gen.9:28,29; 350 years after fld.
0205 Gen.11:32; he dies. Shem dies 502 years after flood. Gen.11:10;
------- Gen.12:4; Abraham age 75, gets Promised Land covenant and he is
0427 years after flood [ of year 1656 ]. Abraham's heirs to get the laws.
0025 Abraham age 100 Gen.21:5; Isaac is born. 452 years after flood.
0060 Isaac age 60, and heir Jacob Gen.25:26; born. 512 years after flood.
0130 age of Jacob, Gen.47:9,11; with 70 in family now in Rameses Egypt at
0642 years after the flood, 215 years after the Promised Land covenant.
0017 Gen.47:28; Jacob dies 659 years after the flood. Joseph is age 57.
0053 years life, Joseph from age 30, governor 80 years in Egypt, he dies.
0712 years after the flood. Ends Genesis 50:26; 185 years to Josh.24:32;
0065 years, Moses born, Pharoah killing all males born in family of Abraham.
0777 years after the flood, in 80 years is 215 years in Rameses Exo.12:37;
0080 age of Moses, Exodus Exo.7:7; 12:40,41; Gal.3:16-18 [ 430 years law ];
0857 years after flood to Exodus. Num.33:38,39; Priest Aaron age 123 dies.
0040 Deut.34:7; Deut,1:3; 29:5; 34:7; Prophet Judge Moses age 120 dies.
0857 years after the flood, %26amp; 40 years after the Exodus, all has the laws.
0001 Josh.5:6,10,14; 14th day in New year ends 40 years from Exodus.
0898th year after flood. Judges began in the Promised Land with Joshua.
0300 years Judges 11: 26; Jair dies.
--------1198 years after the flood for troubles.
--------Acts 13:20; 450 after Exodus Samuel age 80, 1307 years after flood.
--------1Ki.6:1; 480 years after death of Moses, 1377 years after the flood,
--------Solomon year 4, temple begun, Solomon has 36 years of 40, 1413 after
--------flood, year 3069 %26amp; 997 before Christ will be in Rome world Empire #6.
0391 years, Judah kings end, Promised Land desolate by Babylon 2Ki.25:8;
------- 1804 years after flood, year 3460, 606 before Christ in Rome Empire #6
------- Matt.1:1-17; Dan.9:2,24-27 [ Messiah first to come and be cut off ];
------- FROM BABYLON THERE WILL BE NO KING TIL JESUS 2ND COMING
2300 Dan.8:12-14; Word of truth to be circulating in the world is 1611 + 83.
2500 Dan.12:1-7; Michael of Jude 9; protects WORD %26amp; SEALED end time.
2520 Dan.12:8-10; Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; is done SATAN HAS A SHORT TIME.
2580 Dan.12:11 [2x 1290 = ] 2580 less 2520 = 60 years. 1611 + 363.
2613 ---------- is present 2007 AD or CE and 1611 + 396 Past WW1 and WW2
2670 Dan.12:12 [2x 1335 = ] 2670 less 2520 is 150 years FOR SATAN?
------- Rev.9:1-5 [5 x 30 = 150 ] Pit open for Satan, SEALED OF GOD THERE.
------- Rom.16:20; John 6:39,40,44; 14:3; APOSTLES RAISED UP %26amp; SATAN'S
------- IS DOWN %26amp; Michael is there to the end 1Thes.4:15-17; The caught up.
1000 year reign of Christ Rev.20:1-6,12,13; 1Cor.15:22-28,50-53; 2Pet.3:13;
Eph.2:7; 3:21; The world with Jesus is without end. John 3:16; 17:3;
Rev.21:1-5; All is made as new as before Eden. 8 [ second death ]; Rev.20:7-10; No more Satan 7130 years after Eden.
Reply:I would seriously recommend a NIV study application Bible as it is great and gives explanations. your Christian book store would have one. My wife and I use it all the time as I read through the King James as it helps to clarify certain points. God bless!
Reply:I agree with raenae7983 http://www.crosswalk.com is an EXCELLENT resourse to find the type of information you are seeking! As well as guide you to some terrific Study type Bibles! May the Lord bless you as you endevor to follow Him!
Reply:I love my Life Application Bible. It's a Bible with commentaries, that show you how to apply the principles of the Bible to your every day life.
You have to find one you enjoy. Go into a Christian Bookstore, and tell them what you are looking for. Then, look through the Books until you find one that YOU like.
God Bless!
Reply:You can buy a commentary, or use one online, Crosswalk.com has ones that you can use online. It will help to explain the passage that you just read. I love them!
Good luck!
Reply:You want someone else's interpretation of an oft mistranslated 2000 year old text?
Primary sources are the only sources.
Reply:bookstores carry study bibles ....
Reply:The reference above to Crosswalk.com is the best online source I have found. Also, you can download stuff from Esword.net.
What is the best small group Bible study you've ever been part of?
What did you study and why was it the best topic?
What is the best small group Bible study you've ever been part of?
Probably a study on the book Captivating by John and Stasi Elderedge. I'm on my second time through it, and it is life-changing.
But I've only been in about 4 or 5 complete study groups, so I might have a different answer in a few years.
God bless.
Reply:ReGroup - Townsend, Cloud, Donahue
http://www.amazon.com/Regroup-Training-G...
You need the DVD, but it is the "leader" of the group, so it's great for groups that are just starting out, as well as for groups that want to learn to be more effective.
http://www.amazon.com/ReGroup-Participan...
Boundaries - Townsend, Cloud
http://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-When-Ta...
You can actually read some of the participant's guide here:
http://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-When-Ta...
If you go through these two, they will help you be a more effective group - whatever else you study.
Reply:For me, it was a ladies study. We studied proverbs. It was a great balance between fellowship and actual Bible study.
Reply:My youth group just studied the topic of "anger".
It made me realize that although it is not a sin but is very dangerous for us because of our sinful nature.
Good question
Reply:none.
What is the best small group Bible study you've ever been part of?
Probably a study on the book Captivating by John and Stasi Elderedge. I'm on my second time through it, and it is life-changing.
But I've only been in about 4 or 5 complete study groups, so I might have a different answer in a few years.
God bless.
Reply:ReGroup - Townsend, Cloud, Donahue
http://www.amazon.com/Regroup-Training-G...
You need the DVD, but it is the "leader" of the group, so it's great for groups that are just starting out, as well as for groups that want to learn to be more effective.
http://www.amazon.com/ReGroup-Participan...
Boundaries - Townsend, Cloud
http://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-When-Ta...
You can actually read some of the participant's guide here:
http://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-When-Ta...
If you go through these two, they will help you be a more effective group - whatever else you study.
Reply:For me, it was a ladies study. We studied proverbs. It was a great balance between fellowship and actual Bible study.
Reply:My youth group just studied the topic of "anger".
It made me realize that although it is not a sin but is very dangerous for us because of our sinful nature.
Good question
Reply:none.
What are some good games for a college aged bible study group?
I love bible trivia. You can make up the questions yourself.
Or finish the scripture. One person starts the scripture..For God so...the other has to finish it.
What are some good games for a college aged bible study group?
Thumper is good. And I've always liked Quarters.
Reply:Who am I?
Bible scattegories
Bible trivia
Reply:"just the tip or ouch ouch, you're on my hair."
-Wedding Crashers
Reply:Here's a fun one it's like family feud, get two bells. one person to ask questions and know answers. put them in teams of 5 ppl. till best groups play against each other till you have a winning group. it's fun and you really brush up on the word!
Reply:u can play twister. or play truth or dare. make the cards based on bible events. example- somebody picks dare, u can dare them to go out and yell as loud as they can saying" I LOVE GOD. HE IS MY LEADER."and other stuff. it is pretty fun to.
Reply:"Delusions R Us"?
Reply:This isn't a game exactly, but discussing in depth how different verses have impacted you're life. And when they came into you're life and made a difference, in reference to the time frame they happened in.
For instance, important memories of times God has moved in you're life. And any thoughts of verses that could go with that, can be very exciting.
It's exciting, cause' truth can be much stranger than fiction, the real life things that happen to us as we live day to day.
The other day I was due to get on the bus with a friend, and the bus was hit right after they blew the horn to get us.
There was a person who was hurt, and my Pastor says that may have been the first time I realized how powerful God can move in you're life.
Then he gave us all the verses that go with that experience, right out of the top of his head! I loved that, you've probably done that already. Can be very moving.
Reply:Play spin the bottle and if it lands on your, you shar your favorite bible verse. Or share your favorite food, etc.
Reply:Pin the tale on Satan? I'm serious.
super nanny
Or finish the scripture. One person starts the scripture..For God so...the other has to finish it.
What are some good games for a college aged bible study group?
Thumper is good. And I've always liked Quarters.
Reply:Who am I?
Bible scattegories
Bible trivia
Reply:"just the tip or ouch ouch, you're on my hair."
-Wedding Crashers
Reply:Here's a fun one it's like family feud, get two bells. one person to ask questions and know answers. put them in teams of 5 ppl. till best groups play against each other till you have a winning group. it's fun and you really brush up on the word!
Reply:u can play twister. or play truth or dare. make the cards based on bible events. example- somebody picks dare, u can dare them to go out and yell as loud as they can saying" I LOVE GOD. HE IS MY LEADER."and other stuff. it is pretty fun to.
Reply:"Delusions R Us"?
Reply:This isn't a game exactly, but discussing in depth how different verses have impacted you're life. And when they came into you're life and made a difference, in reference to the time frame they happened in.
For instance, important memories of times God has moved in you're life. And any thoughts of verses that could go with that, can be very exciting.
It's exciting, cause' truth can be much stranger than fiction, the real life things that happen to us as we live day to day.
The other day I was due to get on the bus with a friend, and the bus was hit right after they blew the horn to get us.
There was a person who was hurt, and my Pastor says that may have been the first time I realized how powerful God can move in you're life.
Then he gave us all the verses that go with that experience, right out of the top of his head! I loved that, you've probably done that already. Can be very moving.
Reply:Play spin the bottle and if it lands on your, you shar your favorite bible verse. Or share your favorite food, etc.
Reply:Pin the tale on Satan? I'm serious.
super nanny
What are some good ice breakers for a Christian small group or Bible study?
There are some good resources here
What are some good ice breakers for a Christian small group or Bible study?
"So, what's YOUR testimony?"
Reply:Toss a roll of toilet paper from person to person telling them to "take as much as you need". Then have each person tell something about themselves--one thing for every sheet of TP they took.
Reply:How has God impacted your life?
Reply:1)When did person(s) receive salvation and what was it like.
2)Personal testimony of something God h as done for person.
3)Why do they want to serve God and what does that involve.
What are some good ice breakers for a Christian small group or Bible study?
"So, what's YOUR testimony?"
Reply:Toss a roll of toilet paper from person to person telling them to "take as much as you need". Then have each person tell something about themselves--one thing for every sheet of TP they took.
Reply:How has God impacted your life?
Reply:1)When did person(s) receive salvation and what was it like.
2)Personal testimony of something God h as done for person.
3)Why do they want to serve God and what does that involve.
My wife is having a bible study at my house after her church service tomorrow?
Do you think she wouldn't appreciate it if I find one of her spare bibles and burn the pages in front of all her friends from church?
My wife is having a bible study at my house after her church service tomorrow?
Would you appreciate her finding a good divorce attorney?
Reply:LOL, I think if you meant it, she'd kick your ***.
Reply:it would be very disrespectful %26amp; humilating to your wife as well as confusing and hurtfull, why would you want to put your wife thru this, whats the point %26amp; what purpose would it serve? people dont do these types of things to the people they love. It sounds like you have alot of resentful feelings toward her and what she believes in, I'm positive she would be crushed by your actions but everyone would definitely know you dont agree with your wifes religious beliefs. you would look like an @ss.
Reply:Well I'd imagine that might piss her off.
Get the couch ready =X
Reply:If that's how you show respect for your wife....go for it
Reply:i think she would love it- have fun
Reply:eh its your house mate, if you want to start a fire go head, or just ask your Mrs to study at their house
i just wonder what your afraid of,
Reply:please respect your wife's space. Thats why most people get in divorces. I know it's annoying, but hey if i were you I'd go to the local bar and drink a few to pass the time
Reply:You can't hurt Gods people by this ,but he will deal with you for the though.
Reply:I would hope you respect your wife's thoughts and beliefs more than that.
Why did she marry you if you despise her belief system?
Reply:Wow, your marriage will be really short lived.
Reply:I think you know it better.
But ideally she shouldn't.
Reply:Look Satan server, you wouldn't be hurting anyone but yourself. You sail your own ship. Good Luck with that!!!!
Reply:Is that the command of your Lord satan....lol...
Reply:AGAIN, I feel sorry for your wife.
Reply:i am sure that she will be totally upset with you. have some consideration and try to support her for what she is doing. at least consider the vows you may have made when you people got married-to support each other.
Reply:No, and I think she'd appreciate it even less if you did so dressed in the skin of a recently killed sheep while stood in the middle of a pentacle drawn on the floor, with blood red candles burning and chanting latin phrases...
Reply:They'd probably try to hold an exorcism!
Reply:Know how to spell divorce!
Reply:well she should have talked to you about it. that's wrong on her part.
yea, why did you 2 get married if you cant respect each others beliefs?
Reply:LOL thanks that was a good laugh.
Burn them all!
My wife is having a bible study at my house after her church service tomorrow?
Would you appreciate her finding a good divorce attorney?
Reply:LOL, I think if you meant it, she'd kick your ***.
Reply:it would be very disrespectful %26amp; humilating to your wife as well as confusing and hurtfull, why would you want to put your wife thru this, whats the point %26amp; what purpose would it serve? people dont do these types of things to the people they love. It sounds like you have alot of resentful feelings toward her and what she believes in, I'm positive she would be crushed by your actions but everyone would definitely know you dont agree with your wifes religious beliefs. you would look like an @ss.
Reply:Well I'd imagine that might piss her off.
Get the couch ready =X
Reply:If that's how you show respect for your wife....go for it
Reply:i think she would love it- have fun
Reply:eh its your house mate, if you want to start a fire go head, or just ask your Mrs to study at their house
i just wonder what your afraid of,
Reply:please respect your wife's space. Thats why most people get in divorces. I know it's annoying, but hey if i were you I'd go to the local bar and drink a few to pass the time
Reply:You can't hurt Gods people by this ,but he will deal with you for the though.
Reply:I would hope you respect your wife's thoughts and beliefs more than that.
Why did she marry you if you despise her belief system?
Reply:Wow, your marriage will be really short lived.
Reply:I think you know it better.
But ideally she shouldn't.
Reply:Look Satan server, you wouldn't be hurting anyone but yourself. You sail your own ship. Good Luck with that!!!!
Reply:Is that the command of your Lord satan....lol...
Reply:AGAIN, I feel sorry for your wife.
Reply:i am sure that she will be totally upset with you. have some consideration and try to support her for what she is doing. at least consider the vows you may have made when you people got married-to support each other.
Reply:No, and I think she'd appreciate it even less if you did so dressed in the skin of a recently killed sheep while stood in the middle of a pentacle drawn on the floor, with blood red candles burning and chanting latin phrases...
Reply:They'd probably try to hold an exorcism!
Reply:Know how to spell divorce!
Reply:well she should have talked to you about it. that's wrong on her part.
yea, why did you 2 get married if you cant respect each others beliefs?
Reply:LOL thanks that was a good laugh.
Burn them all!
Which version of the Bible do you find best? I use the KJV or NKJV for study & church but NIV 4 daily reading?
I often read from both of these and then compare. KJV %26amp; NIV rainbow study bible.
Which version of the Bible do you find best? I use the KJV or NKJV for study %26amp; church but NIV 4 daily reading?
I like King James because its pretty, the standard translation is closest to the earliest bible written in of course Greek.
Reply:the amplified version is really good, that and the message are my favorites.
Reply:I like the New Revised Standard Version and the Jewish Publication Society's Tanakh, because I find these to be the truest to the original Hebrew.
Reply:For the pleasure of reading, I like the KJV, however for clairity of study for sermons, I like the New American Standard. I find it is the closest to the original texts, %26amp; the tenses are very clear.
Reply:amplified. its is today's English but when i go to church i use a parallel. it has 4 in 1 the one i have is amplified, living bible, king James and nit
Reply:new revised standard version. it is the best of all, clear, not so sexist, speaks to you
Reply:You can't beat the KJV for poetry! I use a NKJV for church and a MKJV (Nelson's Study Bible) for study. For regular reading, I use a parallel Bible with KJV, NKJV, and NIV.
Reply:kjv is the only one i ever read or use because it is the first one i ever read even as a small child i tell you what it made shakespear a lot easier to understand when i had to read that besides that i like the language it flows nicely
Reply:The NIV is my fave because when I translate it back into Koine Greek it always works. Some say it loses some of the feeling, but I disagree.I'd rather have accuracy than feeling.
Reply:I want to start using the NIV since that is what we read out of at church. I use the NLV and I really enjoy that one as well.
Reply:I use the new English Standard Version for my studies. I also like the NASB for its literal translation from the greek. I feel the NIV takes too many freedoms in translating, but I do like its readability. I'm also starting to enjoy the NKJV, just to get a feel for tradition. I don't like the KJV, though, it's too hard for me to read and comprehend when I'm doing daily reading.
Which version of the Bible do you find best? I use the KJV or NKJV for study %26amp; church but NIV 4 daily reading?
I like King James because its pretty, the standard translation is closest to the earliest bible written in of course Greek.
Reply:the amplified version is really good, that and the message are my favorites.
Reply:I like the New Revised Standard Version and the Jewish Publication Society's Tanakh, because I find these to be the truest to the original Hebrew.
Reply:For the pleasure of reading, I like the KJV, however for clairity of study for sermons, I like the New American Standard. I find it is the closest to the original texts, %26amp; the tenses are very clear.
Reply:amplified. its is today's English but when i go to church i use a parallel. it has 4 in 1 the one i have is amplified, living bible, king James and nit
Reply:new revised standard version. it is the best of all, clear, not so sexist, speaks to you
Reply:You can't beat the KJV for poetry! I use a NKJV for church and a MKJV (Nelson's Study Bible) for study. For regular reading, I use a parallel Bible with KJV, NKJV, and NIV.
Reply:kjv is the only one i ever read or use because it is the first one i ever read even as a small child i tell you what it made shakespear a lot easier to understand when i had to read that besides that i like the language it flows nicely
Reply:The NIV is my fave because when I translate it back into Koine Greek it always works. Some say it loses some of the feeling, but I disagree.I'd rather have accuracy than feeling.
Reply:I want to start using the NIV since that is what we read out of at church. I use the NLV and I really enjoy that one as well.
Reply:I use the new English Standard Version for my studies. I also like the NASB for its literal translation from the greek. I feel the NIV takes too many freedoms in translating, but I do like its readability. I'm also starting to enjoy the NKJV, just to get a feel for tradition. I don't like the KJV, though, it's too hard for me to read and comprehend when I'm doing daily reading.
What are some good ice breakers for a Christian small group or Bible study?
There are some good resources here
What are some good ice breakers for a Christian small group or Bible study?
"So, what's YOUR testimony?"
Reply:Toss a roll of toilet paper from person to person telling them to "take as much as you need". Then have each person tell something about themselves--one thing for every sheet of TP they took.
Reply:How has God impacted your life?
Reply:1)When did person(s) receive salvation and what was it like.
2)Personal testimony of something God h as done for person.
3)Why do they want to serve God and what does that involve.
wisdom teeth
What are some good ice breakers for a Christian small group or Bible study?
"So, what's YOUR testimony?"
Reply:Toss a roll of toilet paper from person to person telling them to "take as much as you need". Then have each person tell something about themselves--one thing for every sheet of TP they took.
Reply:How has God impacted your life?
Reply:1)When did person(s) receive salvation and what was it like.
2)Personal testimony of something God h as done for person.
3)Why do they want to serve God and what does that involve.
wisdom teeth
My wife is having a bible study at my house after her church service tomorrow?
Do you think she wouldn't appreciate it if I find one of her spare bibles and burn the pages in front of all her friends from church?
My wife is having a bible study at my house after her church service tomorrow?
Would you appreciate her finding a good divorce attorney?
Reply:LOL, I think if you meant it, she'd kick your ***.
Reply:it would be very disrespectful %26amp; humilating to your wife as well as confusing and hurtfull, why would you want to put your wife thru this, whats the point %26amp; what purpose would it serve? people dont do these types of things to the people they love. It sounds like you have alot of resentful feelings toward her and what she believes in, I'm positive she would be crushed by your actions but everyone would definitely know you dont agree with your wifes religious beliefs. you would look like an @ss.
Reply:Well I'd imagine that might piss her off.
Get the couch ready =X
Reply:If that's how you show respect for your wife....go for it
Reply:i think she would love it- have fun
Reply:eh its your house mate, if you want to start a fire go head, or just ask your Mrs to study at their house
i just wonder what your afraid of,
Reply:please respect your wife's space. Thats why most people get in divorces. I know it's annoying, but hey if i were you I'd go to the local bar and drink a few to pass the time
Reply:You can't hurt Gods people by this ,but he will deal with you for the though.
Reply:I would hope you respect your wife's thoughts and beliefs more than that.
Why did she marry you if you despise her belief system?
Reply:Wow, your marriage will be really short lived.
Reply:I think you know it better.
But ideally she shouldn't.
Reply:Look Satan server, you wouldn't be hurting anyone but yourself. You sail your own ship. Good Luck with that!!!!
Reply:Is that the command of your Lord satan....lol...
Reply:AGAIN, I feel sorry for your wife.
Reply:i am sure that she will be totally upset with you. have some consideration and try to support her for what she is doing. at least consider the vows you may have made when you people got married-to support each other.
Reply:No, and I think she'd appreciate it even less if you did so dressed in the skin of a recently killed sheep while stood in the middle of a pentacle drawn on the floor, with blood red candles burning and chanting latin phrases...
Reply:They'd probably try to hold an exorcism!
Reply:Know how to spell divorce!
Reply:well she should have talked to you about it. that's wrong on her part.
yea, why did you 2 get married if you cant respect each others beliefs?
Reply:LOL thanks that was a good laugh.
Burn them all!
My wife is having a bible study at my house after her church service tomorrow?
Would you appreciate her finding a good divorce attorney?
Reply:LOL, I think if you meant it, she'd kick your ***.
Reply:it would be very disrespectful %26amp; humilating to your wife as well as confusing and hurtfull, why would you want to put your wife thru this, whats the point %26amp; what purpose would it serve? people dont do these types of things to the people they love. It sounds like you have alot of resentful feelings toward her and what she believes in, I'm positive she would be crushed by your actions but everyone would definitely know you dont agree with your wifes religious beliefs. you would look like an @ss.
Reply:Well I'd imagine that might piss her off.
Get the couch ready =X
Reply:If that's how you show respect for your wife....go for it
Reply:i think she would love it- have fun
Reply:eh its your house mate, if you want to start a fire go head, or just ask your Mrs to study at their house
i just wonder what your afraid of,
Reply:please respect your wife's space. Thats why most people get in divorces. I know it's annoying, but hey if i were you I'd go to the local bar and drink a few to pass the time
Reply:You can't hurt Gods people by this ,but he will deal with you for the though.
Reply:I would hope you respect your wife's thoughts and beliefs more than that.
Why did she marry you if you despise her belief system?
Reply:Wow, your marriage will be really short lived.
Reply:I think you know it better.
But ideally she shouldn't.
Reply:Look Satan server, you wouldn't be hurting anyone but yourself. You sail your own ship. Good Luck with that!!!!
Reply:Is that the command of your Lord satan....lol...
Reply:AGAIN, I feel sorry for your wife.
Reply:i am sure that she will be totally upset with you. have some consideration and try to support her for what she is doing. at least consider the vows you may have made when you people got married-to support each other.
Reply:No, and I think she'd appreciate it even less if you did so dressed in the skin of a recently killed sheep while stood in the middle of a pentacle drawn on the floor, with blood red candles burning and chanting latin phrases...
Reply:They'd probably try to hold an exorcism!
Reply:Know how to spell divorce!
Reply:well she should have talked to you about it. that's wrong on her part.
yea, why did you 2 get married if you cant respect each others beliefs?
Reply:LOL thanks that was a good laugh.
Burn them all!
Which version of the Bible do you find best? I use the KJV or NKJV for study & church but NIV 4 daily reading?
I often read from both of these and then compare. KJV %26amp; NIV rainbow study bible.
Which version of the Bible do you find best? I use the KJV or NKJV for study %26amp; church but NIV 4 daily reading?
I like King James because its pretty, the standard translation is closest to the earliest bible written in of course Greek.
Reply:the amplified version is really good, that and the message are my favorites.
Reply:I like the New Revised Standard Version and the Jewish Publication Society's Tanakh, because I find these to be the truest to the original Hebrew.
Reply:For the pleasure of reading, I like the KJV, however for clairity of study for sermons, I like the New American Standard. I find it is the closest to the original texts, %26amp; the tenses are very clear.
Reply:amplified. its is today's English but when i go to church i use a parallel. it has 4 in 1 the one i have is amplified, living bible, king James and nit
Reply:new revised standard version. it is the best of all, clear, not so sexist, speaks to you
Reply:You can't beat the KJV for poetry! I use a NKJV for church and a MKJV (Nelson's Study Bible) for study. For regular reading, I use a parallel Bible with KJV, NKJV, and NIV.
Reply:kjv is the only one i ever read or use because it is the first one i ever read even as a small child i tell you what it made shakespear a lot easier to understand when i had to read that besides that i like the language it flows nicely
Reply:The NIV is my fave because when I translate it back into Koine Greek it always works. Some say it loses some of the feeling, but I disagree.I'd rather have accuracy than feeling.
Reply:I want to start using the NIV since that is what we read out of at church. I use the NLV and I really enjoy that one as well.
Reply:I use the new English Standard Version for my studies. I also like the NASB for its literal translation from the greek. I feel the NIV takes too many freedoms in translating, but I do like its readability. I'm also starting to enjoy the NKJV, just to get a feel for tradition. I don't like the KJV, though, it's too hard for me to read and comprehend when I'm doing daily reading.
Which version of the Bible do you find best? I use the KJV or NKJV for study %26amp; church but NIV 4 daily reading?
I like King James because its pretty, the standard translation is closest to the earliest bible written in of course Greek.
Reply:the amplified version is really good, that and the message are my favorites.
Reply:I like the New Revised Standard Version and the Jewish Publication Society's Tanakh, because I find these to be the truest to the original Hebrew.
Reply:For the pleasure of reading, I like the KJV, however for clairity of study for sermons, I like the New American Standard. I find it is the closest to the original texts, %26amp; the tenses are very clear.
Reply:amplified. its is today's English but when i go to church i use a parallel. it has 4 in 1 the one i have is amplified, living bible, king James and nit
Reply:new revised standard version. it is the best of all, clear, not so sexist, speaks to you
Reply:You can't beat the KJV for poetry! I use a NKJV for church and a MKJV (Nelson's Study Bible) for study. For regular reading, I use a parallel Bible with KJV, NKJV, and NIV.
Reply:kjv is the only one i ever read or use because it is the first one i ever read even as a small child i tell you what it made shakespear a lot easier to understand when i had to read that besides that i like the language it flows nicely
Reply:The NIV is my fave because when I translate it back into Koine Greek it always works. Some say it loses some of the feeling, but I disagree.I'd rather have accuracy than feeling.
Reply:I want to start using the NIV since that is what we read out of at church. I use the NLV and I really enjoy that one as well.
Reply:I use the new English Standard Version for my studies. I also like the NASB for its literal translation from the greek. I feel the NIV takes too many freedoms in translating, but I do like its readability. I'm also starting to enjoy the NKJV, just to get a feel for tradition. I don't like the KJV, though, it's too hard for me to read and comprehend when I'm doing daily reading.
Revival Fire Friday - Through your Bible study, what has God said to you this week?
I understand and accept the need of some of you to reiterate you dont read the Bible now or you dont believe. I will pray for you.
Blessings!
Revival Fire Friday - Through your Bible study, what has God said to you this week?
some of us read our bible
I learned how to cause my mind to be still and completely focus in on God :]
Reply:This week has been a bit tough on me spiritually. He has re-ignited my faith through debate, and shown me how we often forget what's important to us until it's under attack. I learned this lesson not only through tests of faith, but also through trials and attacks on my family.
I'm trying to learn to be a better example of God's word - no matter how many verses I can memorize to throw out in conversation, my actions and mannerisms will be my loudest testimony.
Thank you for this question, and God bless.
Reply:I don't do Bible study, anymore. When I did study the Bible, I lost my belief in the whole monotheistic concept. It led me away from Christianity. That was the good part, though.
The funny part was I truly found that old time religion that drove all the concepts of the OT and ultimately the NT... the religions of Egypt. Unless you study the tales of the Egyptian gods you will never really understand what the bible says and where those tales came from. The beliefs of the judgment after death, lake of fire, heaven, death and resurrection, the battle and triumph of good over evil all came from Egypt. Even the Ten Commandments come from the Negative confessions.
Have a good Revival Fire Friday, no need to pray for me..
Reply:my study of the bible this week has led me to the conclusion that it was written by men, of men, and for men. the little bit of divinity which still shines through its cluttered pages is scattered and layered in deception. True Love and Divine Knowledge is better sought after in your own heart and mind
Reply:Yeah, the first chapter of Ecclesiastes is a very interesting study on philosophy, and the meaning of life. It reminded me that the tough questions about life have been asked by the religious. While people do have faith, it is part of our religion to question things, as well.
Reply:That my apocalyptic thoughts weren't going in the right direction. There will be no utopia when the destructions come. There will only be pain and work. There will be thieves and murders and no one will want to band together to save humanity.
And the Amish will be the only ones who will truly know how to survive.
Reply:Luke 18:18-26
That like the rich young ruler, most who seek the Lord will be asked to surrender the things that are nearest and dearest to themselves in order top follow Him.
%26amp;
1 Cor. 1:18-29
That God's kingdom operates in diometric opposition to the kingdomof this wolrd. That the things of God are foolish to the "wise" of this world.
Thamks for asking.
Happy RFF!
Elder Greg
(((SFCU)))
Reply:I use a devotional which takes me all over the place daily. I have been in Job, Psalm, I Cor., to name a few.
I am contemplating Job. The idea of Satan walking to and fro across the earth and being able to go begging at God's throne for permission to tempt us--even take from us and harm us, as well as the actions of Job's friends. In chapter 2, they got it right. They should have just quietly mourned with him and then gone home and prayed for him.
I am comforted by the notion of being a lamb in God's care (Psalm 23).
Reply:He told me the bible is about individual intitation, not actual events... though the events may be actual, the importance is in self-development.
Reply:He said, wisdom, courage, strength, peace, compassion and forgiveness will increase as I continue the path he has set before me as new beginnings I behold..
Reply:are "revival fires" lit on crosses?
what is a revival fire?
Reply:Yet another example of Christianity stealing from Paganism.
Reply:the goddess told me that she doesn't mind if you use camp fire friday.
bright blessings to you
edit
aww...that's not nice. why the thumbs down?
Reply:That I listen too much to satan.
Blessings!
Revival Fire Friday - Through your Bible study, what has God said to you this week?
some of us read our bible
I learned how to cause my mind to be still and completely focus in on God :]
Reply:This week has been a bit tough on me spiritually. He has re-ignited my faith through debate, and shown me how we often forget what's important to us until it's under attack. I learned this lesson not only through tests of faith, but also through trials and attacks on my family.
I'm trying to learn to be a better example of God's word - no matter how many verses I can memorize to throw out in conversation, my actions and mannerisms will be my loudest testimony.
Thank you for this question, and God bless.
Reply:I don't do Bible study, anymore. When I did study the Bible, I lost my belief in the whole monotheistic concept. It led me away from Christianity. That was the good part, though.
The funny part was I truly found that old time religion that drove all the concepts of the OT and ultimately the NT... the religions of Egypt. Unless you study the tales of the Egyptian gods you will never really understand what the bible says and where those tales came from. The beliefs of the judgment after death, lake of fire, heaven, death and resurrection, the battle and triumph of good over evil all came from Egypt. Even the Ten Commandments come from the Negative confessions.
Have a good Revival Fire Friday, no need to pray for me..
Reply:my study of the bible this week has led me to the conclusion that it was written by men, of men, and for men. the little bit of divinity which still shines through its cluttered pages is scattered and layered in deception. True Love and Divine Knowledge is better sought after in your own heart and mind
Reply:Yeah, the first chapter of Ecclesiastes is a very interesting study on philosophy, and the meaning of life. It reminded me that the tough questions about life have been asked by the religious. While people do have faith, it is part of our religion to question things, as well.
Reply:That my apocalyptic thoughts weren't going in the right direction. There will be no utopia when the destructions come. There will only be pain and work. There will be thieves and murders and no one will want to band together to save humanity.
And the Amish will be the only ones who will truly know how to survive.
Reply:Luke 18:18-26
That like the rich young ruler, most who seek the Lord will be asked to surrender the things that are nearest and dearest to themselves in order top follow Him.
%26amp;
1 Cor. 1:18-29
That God's kingdom operates in diometric opposition to the kingdomof this wolrd. That the things of God are foolish to the "wise" of this world.
Thamks for asking.
Happy RFF!
Elder Greg
(((SFCU)))
Reply:I use a devotional which takes me all over the place daily. I have been in Job, Psalm, I Cor., to name a few.
I am contemplating Job. The idea of Satan walking to and fro across the earth and being able to go begging at God's throne for permission to tempt us--even take from us and harm us, as well as the actions of Job's friends. In chapter 2, they got it right. They should have just quietly mourned with him and then gone home and prayed for him.
I am comforted by the notion of being a lamb in God's care (Psalm 23).
Reply:He told me the bible is about individual intitation, not actual events... though the events may be actual, the importance is in self-development.
Reply:He said, wisdom, courage, strength, peace, compassion and forgiveness will increase as I continue the path he has set before me as new beginnings I behold..
Reply:are "revival fires" lit on crosses?
what is a revival fire?
Reply:Yet another example of Christianity stealing from Paganism.
Reply:the goddess told me that she doesn't mind if you use camp fire friday.
bright blessings to you
edit
aww...that's not nice. why the thumbs down?
Reply:That I listen too much to satan.
How do you use a Chain Reference Study Bible?
i bought one yesterday after searching for a good one. i know its good and i understand its what i wanted because i understand what it's used for and have general idea of how i'm just not SURE how to use it. can someone help plz. i just need an ENGLISH explanation on how to use it cuz the one in front of the bible really didn't help much.
thanks in advance.
How do you use a Chain Reference Study Bible?
Numbers = topics and themes. Use them for additional references that add to and/or expand the scripture you're studying. [use it when you know a one scripture that talks about a topic and want more information]
Word Reference -- there's also a key word reference that will give you a word like 'love' and list every scripture that has that word. [nice when you know a scripture and can't remember where to find it.]
Most bibles with a reference also have a section that outlines each book of the BIBLE and/or gives a chronilogical list of biblical events.
Most reference bibles have a maps sections and several journeys drown on them like Abraham's.
My point in listing everything most reference bibles have is to tell you that many of the pages that are confusing you are not even part of the reference feature you purchased.
My advice is to start using the word reference then use the number reference when you find a scripture that grabs your attention during a sermon or Bible Study. It's kinda like a new computer program -- you learn more by playing with it than by asking around about using it.
Hope that helps. I love my Thompson Chain Reference BIBLE -- have had it for 25 years and wouldn't care to trade it in for any of my other translations or bible study materials!
Reply:Themes are portrayed as numbers. You can find a number to reference a certain topic. For example, with each verse, a number is displayed displaying the theme. It will also reference a next verse in the Bible where that theme appears.
A chain reference Bible shows continuity of the chains between the OT and the NT. Parallel passages are also on the margin.
Eye pencil
thanks in advance.
How do you use a Chain Reference Study Bible?
Numbers = topics and themes. Use them for additional references that add to and/or expand the scripture you're studying. [use it when you know a one scripture that talks about a topic and want more information]
Word Reference -- there's also a key word reference that will give you a word like 'love' and list every scripture that has that word. [nice when you know a scripture and can't remember where to find it.]
Most bibles with a reference also have a section that outlines each book of the BIBLE and/or gives a chronilogical list of biblical events.
Most reference bibles have a maps sections and several journeys drown on them like Abraham's.
My point in listing everything most reference bibles have is to tell you that many of the pages that are confusing you are not even part of the reference feature you purchased.
My advice is to start using the word reference then use the number reference when you find a scripture that grabs your attention during a sermon or Bible Study. It's kinda like a new computer program -- you learn more by playing with it than by asking around about using it.
Hope that helps. I love my Thompson Chain Reference BIBLE -- have had it for 25 years and wouldn't care to trade it in for any of my other translations or bible study materials!
Reply:Themes are portrayed as numbers. You can find a number to reference a certain topic. For example, with each verse, a number is displayed displaying the theme. It will also reference a next verse in the Bible where that theme appears.
A chain reference Bible shows continuity of the chains between the OT and the NT. Parallel passages are also on the margin.
Eye pencil
What is a good name for a young boys and girls bible study?
Kids Konnection (or) Kids Korner (or)
K K K Kristian Kids Korner; Kristian Kids Konnection
(got to be careful with KKK, though)
C C C Children's (Church or Christian) Connection or Corner)
What is a good name for a young boys and girls bible study?
Usually most Bible studies do not need a name, but to identify
for the specific purpose that you want the Bible study just to be of young boys and girls. Try the young peoples Bible study group should be sufficient, Remember the focus is on Christ and His word not on who you are
Reply:David's Warriors.
Start them with David and Goliath and then what a shepherd is and that David slew a lion and a bear.
Teach them that David talked about the coming Messiah Jesus in Psalms. That Jesus is our Shepard like David was to His nation.
Many many parallels just keep them simple.
Peace and Joy -T2T
Reply:Gospel Spreaders.
I know my youth group is called Fuel, and the middle school is called Wired.
There was also one called Sword.
um, sword searchers
little lambs
Bible Force
idk, but kool that you guys are having a Bible study!!
Reply:AWANA. A Christ-centered bible-based training program for children, youth, and teens.
Go to www.awana.com
It's an international organization. We have this at our church.
Reply:Fiction Fridays, Thoughtless Thursdays, Witless Wednesdays, pretty much endless.
Reply:BRAINWASHING 101
Reply:Scripture Power Class
Reply:The brainwashing club.
Reply:BAH BAH BAH
Reply:Little Lambs? That's a possibility!
Reply:*Grim* Fairy Tales
Reply:The REAL free-thinkers union.
Reply:The Seekers
Reply:Life Lessons
Gotta Know
Kool School
Awsome Gang
Don't tell Em
God's Players
Reply:john and beth
Reply:Gods children.
K K K Kristian Kids Korner; Kristian Kids Konnection
(got to be careful with KKK, though)
C C C Children's (Church or Christian) Connection or Corner)
What is a good name for a young boys and girls bible study?
Usually most Bible studies do not need a name, but to identify
for the specific purpose that you want the Bible study just to be of young boys and girls. Try the young peoples Bible study group should be sufficient, Remember the focus is on Christ and His word not on who you are
Reply:David's Warriors.
Start them with David and Goliath and then what a shepherd is and that David slew a lion and a bear.
Teach them that David talked about the coming Messiah Jesus in Psalms. That Jesus is our Shepard like David was to His nation.
Many many parallels just keep them simple.
Peace and Joy -T2T
Reply:Gospel Spreaders.
I know my youth group is called Fuel, and the middle school is called Wired.
There was also one called Sword.
um, sword searchers
little lambs
Bible Force
idk, but kool that you guys are having a Bible study!!
Reply:AWANA. A Christ-centered bible-based training program for children, youth, and teens.
Go to www.awana.com
It's an international organization. We have this at our church.
Reply:Fiction Fridays, Thoughtless Thursdays, Witless Wednesdays, pretty much endless.
Reply:BRAINWASHING 101
Reply:Scripture Power Class
Reply:The brainwashing club.
Reply:BAH BAH BAH
Reply:Little Lambs? That's a possibility!
Reply:*Grim* Fairy Tales
Reply:The REAL free-thinkers union.
Reply:The Seekers
Reply:Life Lessons
Gotta Know
Kool School
Awsome Gang
Don't tell Em
God's Players
Reply:john and beth
Reply:Gods children.
Does your family have a regular Bible study schedule???
Which category does your family fall under?
1) We read the Bible together and have a discussion about what we read.
2) We prefer to read it individually.
3) No one in my fam reads the Bible at all.
Does your family have a regular Bible study schedule???
I appreciate that question. It is very important. I say I fall under the selection #2. It is just my wife and me right now. When we have kids in the future I will make sure we have a family Bible study.
Reply:3.
I am an atheist, my father is too. Mom don't care and I think my brother is gay, sooo
Reply:3. We're a bunch of heathens.
Reply:1.. sundays and wednesdays...
Reply:4. As much as I would like the only time my family gets to hear the bible is on Sunday. I read it. my husband is a work in progress.
Reply:#1
Reply:None of the above.
I've read it but it's not something I'd want to do on a regular basis.
Reply:Well at our church we go to bible study in the morning before service and we discuss what we think it means and we can all input. It's a comfortable atmosphere and we still learn, while having fun. We tell stories (pertaining to what we are talking about) and put in our interpretation. You could do something like that at your home or if you go to church suggest that to them. We have different age groups Ex: High School, College, Middle School, adults, etc.
Reply:2. But having a family Bible study is very important. It gives everyone a chance to get closer as a fam, learn more about each other, and most importantly, build each other up spiritually, which is needed in the time we're living in.
Reply:C
Reply:Parts of my family fit each category
1) We read the Bible together and have a discussion about what we read.
2) We prefer to read it individually.
3) No one in my fam reads the Bible at all.
Does your family have a regular Bible study schedule???
I appreciate that question. It is very important. I say I fall under the selection #2. It is just my wife and me right now. When we have kids in the future I will make sure we have a family Bible study.
Reply:3.
I am an atheist, my father is too. Mom don't care and I think my brother is gay, sooo
Reply:3. We're a bunch of heathens.
Reply:1.. sundays and wednesdays...
Reply:4. As much as I would like the only time my family gets to hear the bible is on Sunday. I read it. my husband is a work in progress.
Reply:#1
Reply:None of the above.
I've read it but it's not something I'd want to do on a regular basis.
Reply:Well at our church we go to bible study in the morning before service and we discuss what we think it means and we can all input. It's a comfortable atmosphere and we still learn, while having fun. We tell stories (pertaining to what we are talking about) and put in our interpretation. You could do something like that at your home or if you go to church suggest that to them. We have different age groups Ex: High School, College, Middle School, adults, etc.
Reply:2. But having a family Bible study is very important. It gives everyone a chance to get closer as a fam, learn more about each other, and most importantly, build each other up spiritually, which is needed in the time we're living in.
Reply:C
Reply:Parts of my family fit each category
What bible should I study?
For those of you who are giving advice on which bible to study, your advice is way off base. Several versions were said to be closer to the original text. Not true at all! The Spirit of the Word authenicates Word, not a version. The truth be known, the NIV is actually more updated because of its direct translation from Hebrew and Greek and because of the number of scholars used in its translation. Be that as it may, we do not need to start a doctrine that one is supreme over all others. "The letter killeth, but the SPIRIT giveth life." It is not the book but the Spirit of the book. I read several versions for study purposes.
I have attended three religious institutions and one seminary. No one bible reigned supreme in school. We all have preferences, but that is the extent of it.
I was raised on the KJV, but I read the NIV when I meditate.
There are thousands of bibles in various languages, and they all are effective if in Christ!
What bible should I study?
Me, personally, I read the NIV. Study from the NKJV, and memorize the KJV. But whatever works for you. I believe there are advantages to studying more than one version. There are way too many extremists out there who believe it's either KJV or nothing! That's probaby why they don't learn anything.
Reply:The most accurate versions are those written in the original languages, Hebrew for the Old Testament and Greek for the New Testament. These are the versions to be compared with whether the translations, be it NKJ, NIV, NASB, etc are true to the original languages of the Bible. I agree that it is the Holy Spirit who gives us revelation of the truth and the deep things of God (1 Corinthians 2:10) and not just by our reading or hearing alone..
Reply:Why I use the NWT:
Old Testament:
In fact, the New World Translation is a scholarly work. In 1989, Professor Benjamin Kedar of Israel said:
"In my linguistic research in connection with the Hebrew Bible and translation, I often refer to the English edition as what is known as the New World Translation. In doing so, I find my feeling repeatedly confirmed that this kind of work reflects an honest endeavor to achieve an understanding of the text that is as accurate as possible. Giving evidence of a broad command of the original language, it renders the original words into a second language understandably without deviating unnecessarily from the specific structure of the Hebrew....Every statement of language allows for a certain latitude in interpreting or translating. So the linguistic solution in any given case may be open to debate. But I have never discovered in the New World Translation any biased intent to read something into the text that it does not contain."
New Testament:
While critical of some of its translation choices, BeDuhn called the New World Translation a “remarkably good” translation, “better by far” and “consistently better” than some of the others considered. Overall, concluded BeDuhn, the New World Translation “is one of the most accurate English translations of the New Testament currently available” and “the most accurate of the translations compared.”—Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament.
“Here at last is a comprehensive comparison of nine major translations of the Bible:
King James Version, New American Standard Bible, New International Version, New Revised Standard Version, New American Bible, Amplified Bible, Today's English Version (Good News Bible), Living Bible, and the New World Translation.
The book provides a general introduction to the history and methods of Bible translation, and gives background on each of these versions. Then it compares them on key passages of the New Testament to determine their accuracy and identify their bias. Passages looked at include:
John 1:1; John 8:58; Philippians 2:5-11; Colossians 1:15-20; Titus 2:13; Hebrews 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1
Jason BeDuhn
Associate Professor of Religious Studies, and Chair
Department of Humanities, Arts, and Religion
Northern Arizona University
Why did the recently published “New International Version” (NIV) of the Bible fail to use the name of God where it appears about 7,000 times in ancient Bible manuscripts? In response to a person who inquired about this, Edwin H. Palmer, Th.D., Executive Secretary for the NIV’s committee wrote:
“Here is why we did not: You are right that Jehovah is a distinctive name for God and ideally we should have used it. But we put 2 1/4 million dollars into this translation and a sure way of throwing that down the drain is to translate, for example, Psalm 23 as, ‘Yahweh is my shepherd.’ Immediately, we would have translated for nothing. Nobody would have used it. Oh, maybe you and a handful [of] others. But a Christian has to be also wise and practical. We are the victims of 350 years of the King James tradition. It is far better to get two million to read it—that is how many have bought it to date—and to follow the King James, than to have two thousand buy it and have the correct translation of Yahweh. . . . It was a hard decision, and many of our translators agree with you.”
Concerning the NIV:
Bruce Metzger: (NIV) "It is surprising that translators who profess to have 'a high view of scripture" should take liberties with text by omitting words or, more often, by adding words that are not in the manuscripts."
.
Reply:BUT ... you did not ask a question!
Try the Anchor bible.
Reply:no book stands without the rest of the library study it all and get a well rounded education ....it's only as good as the person who regards it. take a step back and look at the big picture the tree of life has more branches than just religion and it requires them as well. plenty of wise and brilliant dead men to read .
Reply:Try the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster for a change dear.
It's available on Amazon.
Reply:Not quite right. Try comparing an Interlinear Bible with the NIV and you will find the NIV is not that accurate. An Interlinear gives the original Hebrew and Greek with a word for word translation.
Reply:This is the advice I give. Please let me know if you still believe (as stated) that it is way off-base:
OK, here's my "what bible should I pick" answer:
1st, I'll assume that you are not a member of a sect that demands using the King James Version (KJV) or any other particular version. (Unfortunately, most of these sects do not actually use the whole KJV.)
At this stage you want to decide what your bible should contain. Do you want a bible that contains 1) all scripture or 2) a selection of scripture? Besides editions that contain all scripture, there are editions that contain only new testament books, others containing only books from the Hebrew bible, and still others (the majority) which exclude several books in a somewhat cavalier fashion.
I will assume that you intend to read the entire bible, or at least wish to have the entire bible at your disposal. In this case, you must obtain a bible that includes the Apocrypha. There are some sects teaching that the apocrypha is not inspired scripture, and if you are a member of one of these sects then simply avoid reading these books. There is no other reason for avoiding the so-called apocrypha and every reason to get a bible which includes them. Here is a more in-depth discussion about this topic: http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/dc.htm .
In my conclusion I will consider two cases:
1) You want a "complete" bible (Complete)
2) You don't care if the apocrypha is included or not (Open)
The next stage is to decide if you want a bible merely for reading and learning the text of the bible itself, or if you intend to study scripture more deeply and intensely in order to gain a greater understanding and to help you interpret the scriptures accurately. This is the difference between a "standard" edition bible and a (scholarly) study bible. I will refer to this as "purpose" when I make recommendations below.
Finally, you need to decide whether you want a translation that offers 1) ease of reading 2) literalness of translation or 3) accuracy of translation. I separate these even though they are not *necessarily* mutually exclusive. Different versions *do* (must) follow primarily one of these three criteria, however, and so should you when you make a decision. I will refer to this as "style" when I make recommendations below.
A note about the KJV: although excellent for its time, and including nearly the entire body of scripture, as well as marginal notes from the translators providing possible alternate translations (making it a passable study bible), the KJV uses 400-year-old English, 400-year-old scholarship (read: they didn't know as much as scholars today), and texts that lacked the last 400 years of archaeological discoveries. By no means was the KJV the first English version of the bible. It's main advantage today is that most people use some form of the KJV and it is often useful to use the same version as others in discussions of scripture.
Recommendations: you can look at a fairly thorough comparison of technical details of different versions here: http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/chart.ht... , but what follows are my recommendations.
Comparisons of "literalness" of translation can be found here: http://www.preceptaustin.org/tool_commen... and here: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~port/teach/re... and here: http://www.zondervan.com/images/cms/Bibl... . An important note: "literal" does *not* equate with "accurate". A translation that is more literal does *not* equate to a translation that is more accurate. Indeed, in *any* language translation, literal translation is likely to lead to significant failings in accuracy of translation.
Style: Translated for Ease of Reading
....Purpose: Reading (Ease of Reading is not a relevant style for a study bible purpose)
........Content: Complete
............CEV (Contemporary English Version) - may have difficulty finding a complete version in print http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... , but available as an e-book on CD http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... . Second choice: NAB (New American Bible) - not as easy to read but still easy, translation accuracy may be slanted slightly by Roman Catholic bias.
Style: Translated for Ease of Reading
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Open
............NIV (New International Version) - one of the easiest-to-read modern translations with higher marks for accuracy than most easy-to-read bibles
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Complete
............RSV (Revised Standard Version), New Oxford Annotated Bible, Expanded Edition - one of the most literal translations with some of the most scholarly study notes, though somewhat archaic language. 2nd choice: NET (New English Translation) - literalness uncertain but copious translator's notes help the reader achieve this goal. Deutero-canonicals incomplete.
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Open
............NASB (New American Standard Bible), Scofield Study Bible - most literal modern translation, but study notes are for the most part independent of the translation. 2nd choice: RSV New Oxford Annotated Bible - not as literal as the NASB but more comprehensive and scholarly study notes, available without Apocrypha.
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Complete
............RSV - most literal complete version, but somewhat archaic language. Make certain to get a version that includes the Apocrypha. (All "Catholic" bibles include *most* of these books, and "Expanded Edition" includes them all).
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Open
............NASB - most literal modern-text bible, high marks for accuracy
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Complete
............NJB (New Jerusalem Bible), Regular Edition - copious study notes, word use demonstrates great concern for accuracy of translation, my favorite version. 2nd choice: NRSV (New Revised Standard Version), The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha, Augmented Third Edition - includes complete deutero-canonicals, excellent scholarly study notes on par with NJB, but translation suffers slightly from over-zealous use of "inclusive" language
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Open
............Same as above. New Oxford Annotated available without the Apocrypha.
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Complete
............NJB Reader's Edition. 2nd choice: NET - copious translator's notes may make this the most accurate translation, but requires study to absorb the translation; deutero-canonicals incomplete.
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Open
............NJB Reader's Edition. 2nd choice: NET. 3rd choice: NIV (New International Version) - highly regarded non-biased translation, not as careful as NJB but easier to read.
Recommendations for the true bible student (who doesn't know Greek or Hebrew):
1) Software including NASB, KJV, NRSV, NJB and NIV - I use Ellis (lacks NIV) but there is at least one other *affordable* (under $100) package providing this selection. Make certain a Strong's Concordance is also included.
2) NJB Regular Edition - get it if you can, don't settle for the Standard Edition. (My review here: http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/njb.htm )
3) NASB - make certain to get the latest version. Get it in print if your software doesn't have it. Most literal translation.
4) The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha, Augmented Third Edition - NRSV translation demonstrates over-zealous use of inclusive language but the study notes are invaluable, perhaps better and less biased than NJB.
5) Oxford Authorized King James Version with Apocrypha http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... - the complete books of the 1611 King James Version with printers errors removed and spelling modernized. No marginal notes.
6) KJV New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with the Apocrypha http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... - the complete 1611 edition, *including* marginal notes, with modernized spelling. Probably more valuable than 5), but it's a tough call.
7) A good bible dictionary, such as HarperCollins Bible Dictionary. There are a few equally good alternatives.
Honorable mentions:
1) Tanakh, 1995 edition, by the Jewish Publication Society - scholarly translation of the Hebrew Bible by Jewish scholars, very highly regarded.
2) NWT (New World Translation), With References - a very literal bible with some excellent though incomplete study notes. Shows significant but infrequent Jehovah's Witness bias and is available only from the WatchTower Organization (Jehovah's Witnesses). Reading this with the awareness of the bias (which is mostly documented in the bible itself) can be quite worthwhile to a student of the bible.
I hope this helps.
Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/
Reply:New RSV Life application is great..
Reply:NWT (New World Translation) %26amp; NAB (New American Bible).
I've also read the Jason BeDuhn book. Liked it alot. I wish there was more secular books regarding comparative translations.
Take Care Everybody.
Reply:The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Reply:For clarity of thought, I prefer the New International Version. But for the poetic or literary value, I like the King James Version. Different versions of the Bible are good if they do not omit or alter any thought in the original Hebrew or Greek as some do.
Again, I agree we must know and have the Logos word, but it is the Rhema (revelation) word that transforms and gives life.
When the Logos word becomes the Rhema word then we understand the will of God.
Reply:You weren't really asking a question were you?
Reply:So you have answered your own question... well done... good answer!!!
Reply:science book
I have attended three religious institutions and one seminary. No one bible reigned supreme in school. We all have preferences, but that is the extent of it.
I was raised on the KJV, but I read the NIV when I meditate.
There are thousands of bibles in various languages, and they all are effective if in Christ!
What bible should I study?
Me, personally, I read the NIV. Study from the NKJV, and memorize the KJV. But whatever works for you. I believe there are advantages to studying more than one version. There are way too many extremists out there who believe it's either KJV or nothing! That's probaby why they don't learn anything.
Reply:The most accurate versions are those written in the original languages, Hebrew for the Old Testament and Greek for the New Testament. These are the versions to be compared with whether the translations, be it NKJ, NIV, NASB, etc are true to the original languages of the Bible. I agree that it is the Holy Spirit who gives us revelation of the truth and the deep things of God (1 Corinthians 2:10) and not just by our reading or hearing alone..
Reply:Why I use the NWT:
Old Testament:
In fact, the New World Translation is a scholarly work. In 1989, Professor Benjamin Kedar of Israel said:
"In my linguistic research in connection with the Hebrew Bible and translation, I often refer to the English edition as what is known as the New World Translation. In doing so, I find my feeling repeatedly confirmed that this kind of work reflects an honest endeavor to achieve an understanding of the text that is as accurate as possible. Giving evidence of a broad command of the original language, it renders the original words into a second language understandably without deviating unnecessarily from the specific structure of the Hebrew....Every statement of language allows for a certain latitude in interpreting or translating. So the linguistic solution in any given case may be open to debate. But I have never discovered in the New World Translation any biased intent to read something into the text that it does not contain."
New Testament:
While critical of some of its translation choices, BeDuhn called the New World Translation a “remarkably good” translation, “better by far” and “consistently better” than some of the others considered. Overall, concluded BeDuhn, the New World Translation “is one of the most accurate English translations of the New Testament currently available” and “the most accurate of the translations compared.”—Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament.
“Here at last is a comprehensive comparison of nine major translations of the Bible:
King James Version, New American Standard Bible, New International Version, New Revised Standard Version, New American Bible, Amplified Bible, Today's English Version (Good News Bible), Living Bible, and the New World Translation.
The book provides a general introduction to the history and methods of Bible translation, and gives background on each of these versions. Then it compares them on key passages of the New Testament to determine their accuracy and identify their bias. Passages looked at include:
John 1:1; John 8:58; Philippians 2:5-11; Colossians 1:15-20; Titus 2:13; Hebrews 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1
Jason BeDuhn
Associate Professor of Religious Studies, and Chair
Department of Humanities, Arts, and Religion
Northern Arizona University
Why did the recently published “New International Version” (NIV) of the Bible fail to use the name of God where it appears about 7,000 times in ancient Bible manuscripts? In response to a person who inquired about this, Edwin H. Palmer, Th.D., Executive Secretary for the NIV’s committee wrote:
“Here is why we did not: You are right that Jehovah is a distinctive name for God and ideally we should have used it. But we put 2 1/4 million dollars into this translation and a sure way of throwing that down the drain is to translate, for example, Psalm 23 as, ‘Yahweh is my shepherd.’ Immediately, we would have translated for nothing. Nobody would have used it. Oh, maybe you and a handful [of] others. But a Christian has to be also wise and practical. We are the victims of 350 years of the King James tradition. It is far better to get two million to read it—that is how many have bought it to date—and to follow the King James, than to have two thousand buy it and have the correct translation of Yahweh. . . . It was a hard decision, and many of our translators agree with you.”
Concerning the NIV:
Bruce Metzger: (NIV) "It is surprising that translators who profess to have 'a high view of scripture" should take liberties with text by omitting words or, more often, by adding words that are not in the manuscripts."
.
Reply:BUT ... you did not ask a question!
Try the Anchor bible.
Reply:no book stands without the rest of the library study it all and get a well rounded education ....it's only as good as the person who regards it. take a step back and look at the big picture the tree of life has more branches than just religion and it requires them as well. plenty of wise and brilliant dead men to read .
Reply:Try the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster for a change dear.
It's available on Amazon.
Reply:Not quite right. Try comparing an Interlinear Bible with the NIV and you will find the NIV is not that accurate. An Interlinear gives the original Hebrew and Greek with a word for word translation.
Reply:This is the advice I give. Please let me know if you still believe (as stated) that it is way off-base:
OK, here's my "what bible should I pick" answer:
1st, I'll assume that you are not a member of a sect that demands using the King James Version (KJV) or any other particular version. (Unfortunately, most of these sects do not actually use the whole KJV.)
At this stage you want to decide what your bible should contain. Do you want a bible that contains 1) all scripture or 2) a selection of scripture? Besides editions that contain all scripture, there are editions that contain only new testament books, others containing only books from the Hebrew bible, and still others (the majority) which exclude several books in a somewhat cavalier fashion.
I will assume that you intend to read the entire bible, or at least wish to have the entire bible at your disposal. In this case, you must obtain a bible that includes the Apocrypha. There are some sects teaching that the apocrypha is not inspired scripture, and if you are a member of one of these sects then simply avoid reading these books. There is no other reason for avoiding the so-called apocrypha and every reason to get a bible which includes them. Here is a more in-depth discussion about this topic: http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/dc.htm .
In my conclusion I will consider two cases:
1) You want a "complete" bible (Complete)
2) You don't care if the apocrypha is included or not (Open)
The next stage is to decide if you want a bible merely for reading and learning the text of the bible itself, or if you intend to study scripture more deeply and intensely in order to gain a greater understanding and to help you interpret the scriptures accurately. This is the difference between a "standard" edition bible and a (scholarly) study bible. I will refer to this as "purpose" when I make recommendations below.
Finally, you need to decide whether you want a translation that offers 1) ease of reading 2) literalness of translation or 3) accuracy of translation. I separate these even though they are not *necessarily* mutually exclusive. Different versions *do* (must) follow primarily one of these three criteria, however, and so should you when you make a decision. I will refer to this as "style" when I make recommendations below.
A note about the KJV: although excellent for its time, and including nearly the entire body of scripture, as well as marginal notes from the translators providing possible alternate translations (making it a passable study bible), the KJV uses 400-year-old English, 400-year-old scholarship (read: they didn't know as much as scholars today), and texts that lacked the last 400 years of archaeological discoveries. By no means was the KJV the first English version of the bible. It's main advantage today is that most people use some form of the KJV and it is often useful to use the same version as others in discussions of scripture.
Recommendations: you can look at a fairly thorough comparison of technical details of different versions here: http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/chart.ht... , but what follows are my recommendations.
Comparisons of "literalness" of translation can be found here: http://www.preceptaustin.org/tool_commen... and here: http://www.cs.indiana.edu/~port/teach/re... and here: http://www.zondervan.com/images/cms/Bibl... . An important note: "literal" does *not* equate with "accurate". A translation that is more literal does *not* equate to a translation that is more accurate. Indeed, in *any* language translation, literal translation is likely to lead to significant failings in accuracy of translation.
Style: Translated for Ease of Reading
....Purpose: Reading (Ease of Reading is not a relevant style for a study bible purpose)
........Content: Complete
............CEV (Contemporary English Version) - may have difficulty finding a complete version in print http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... , but available as an e-book on CD http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... . Second choice: NAB (New American Bible) - not as easy to read but still easy, translation accuracy may be slanted slightly by Roman Catholic bias.
Style: Translated for Ease of Reading
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Open
............NIV (New International Version) - one of the easiest-to-read modern translations with higher marks for accuracy than most easy-to-read bibles
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Complete
............RSV (Revised Standard Version), New Oxford Annotated Bible, Expanded Edition - one of the most literal translations with some of the most scholarly study notes, though somewhat archaic language. 2nd choice: NET (New English Translation) - literalness uncertain but copious translator's notes help the reader achieve this goal. Deutero-canonicals incomplete.
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Open
............NASB (New American Standard Bible), Scofield Study Bible - most literal modern translation, but study notes are for the most part independent of the translation. 2nd choice: RSV New Oxford Annotated Bible - not as literal as the NASB but more comprehensive and scholarly study notes, available without Apocrypha.
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Complete
............RSV - most literal complete version, but somewhat archaic language. Make certain to get a version that includes the Apocrypha. (All "Catholic" bibles include *most* of these books, and "Expanded Edition" includes them all).
Style: Literalness of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Open
............NASB - most literal modern-text bible, high marks for accuracy
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Complete
............NJB (New Jerusalem Bible), Regular Edition - copious study notes, word use demonstrates great concern for accuracy of translation, my favorite version. 2nd choice: NRSV (New Revised Standard Version), The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha, Augmented Third Edition - includes complete deutero-canonicals, excellent scholarly study notes on par with NJB, but translation suffers slightly from over-zealous use of "inclusive" language
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Study
........Content: Open
............Same as above. New Oxford Annotated available without the Apocrypha.
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Complete
............NJB Reader's Edition. 2nd choice: NET - copious translator's notes may make this the most accurate translation, but requires study to absorb the translation; deutero-canonicals incomplete.
Style: Accuracy of Translation
....Purpose: Reading
........Content: Open
............NJB Reader's Edition. 2nd choice: NET. 3rd choice: NIV (New International Version) - highly regarded non-biased translation, not as careful as NJB but easier to read.
Recommendations for the true bible student (who doesn't know Greek or Hebrew):
1) Software including NASB, KJV, NRSV, NJB and NIV - I use Ellis (lacks NIV) but there is at least one other *affordable* (under $100) package providing this selection. Make certain a Strong's Concordance is also included.
2) NJB Regular Edition - get it if you can, don't settle for the Standard Edition. (My review here: http://www.jimpettis.com/bibles/njb.htm )
3) NASB - make certain to get the latest version. Get it in print if your software doesn't have it. Most literal translation.
4) The New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha, Augmented Third Edition - NRSV translation demonstrates over-zealous use of inclusive language but the study notes are invaluable, perhaps better and less biased than NJB.
5) Oxford Authorized King James Version with Apocrypha http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... - the complete books of the 1611 King James Version with printers errors removed and spelling modernized. No marginal notes.
6) KJV New Cambridge Paragraph Bible with the Apocrypha http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i... - the complete 1611 edition, *including* marginal notes, with modernized spelling. Probably more valuable than 5), but it's a tough call.
7) A good bible dictionary, such as HarperCollins Bible Dictionary. There are a few equally good alternatives.
Honorable mentions:
1) Tanakh, 1995 edition, by the Jewish Publication Society - scholarly translation of the Hebrew Bible by Jewish scholars, very highly regarded.
2) NWT (New World Translation), With References - a very literal bible with some excellent though incomplete study notes. Shows significant but infrequent Jehovah's Witness bias and is available only from the WatchTower Organization (Jehovah's Witnesses). Reading this with the awareness of the bias (which is mostly documented in the bible itself) can be quite worthwhile to a student of the bible.
I hope this helps.
Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/
Reply:New RSV Life application is great..
Reply:NWT (New World Translation) %26amp; NAB (New American Bible).
I've also read the Jason BeDuhn book. Liked it alot. I wish there was more secular books regarding comparative translations.
Take Care Everybody.
Reply:The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Reply:For clarity of thought, I prefer the New International Version. But for the poetic or literary value, I like the King James Version. Different versions of the Bible are good if they do not omit or alter any thought in the original Hebrew or Greek as some do.
Again, I agree we must know and have the Logos word, but it is the Rhema (revelation) word that transforms and gives life.
When the Logos word becomes the Rhema word then we understand the will of God.
Reply:You weren't really asking a question were you?
Reply:So you have answered your own question... well done... good answer!!!
Reply:science book
Has anyone done the bible study at amazing facts.com?
I am curious what did you think of it?
i think there is a lot of valuable information. But i have been totally confused since I did this study.( Its put on by seventh day adventists)
They pretty much say that we are still bound by the old laws like not eating pork or other unclean animals. We should follow the sabbath which is actually saturday etc..
I think it is all fine and good they have so many scriptures to back things up.
But i also hear many others talk about how after Jesus died we are no longer bond by the law. If you confess with your mouth jesus is Lord you are saved.
But we are also to follow in Christ's footsteps. He obeyed the law and followed the sabbath.
Any thoughts on this?
I am truly a God fearing, loving Christian who is looking for real answers.
Thanks
Has anyone done the bible study at amazing facts.com?
I have done the study
I would like to help, What part of it is confusing feel free to email me
Yes, many people say that since Jesus died we don't have to keep the 10 commandments?
But... if you ask them "Is it ok to murder" they say "No"
"Is it ok to steal" etc. they always say we should keep the commandments... until you ask about the Sabbath. Then people say "We don't have to keep the law, we are under grace, just believe in Jesus." but does believing in Jesus mean we don't have to keep the commandments?
"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31
Many people say "Just believe in God don't worry about obeying Him"
But what does Jesus say
"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46
There are people who say "Yes I am a Christian" but they don't obey God
Again Jesus talks about people who say "Forget the law"
"Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice LAWLESSNESS.” Luke 7:22-23
Many believe that we should not murder
They believe that we should not steal
They believe that we should not lie
They believe that we should not commit adultery
They believe that we should not be covetous
They believe that we should honor our parents
They believe that we should not worship other gods
They believe that we should not worship idols
They believe that we should not take the Lord's name in vain.
They believe we should keep 9 of the 10 commandments but they think we should forget the only commandment that starts with "REMEMBER".
Many people say keeping the Sabbath is legalism
Is it legalism to keep the other 9 commandments? Is it legalism to obey God? Again, if God tells us to do something is it legalism to obey?
If we don't do what God says isn't that sin?
For example
Look at Cain and Abel
"I know God wants an animal sacrifice, but I am going to bring fruits, stop being legalistic Abel."
Was Cain right? Or should he have done what God said?
Doing what God said is not called legalism it is called obedience. When people do not do what God says that is not called living under grace it is called SIN, and sinners will always try to make you feel guilty when you Obey God and do what God says.
NO ONE is saved by keeping the commandments. We are saved by grace... BUT if you know the commandment says keep the Sabbath Holy and you choose to willfully break the law Hebrews 10:26 says that
"For if we sin WILFULLY after that we have received the knowledge of the TRUTH, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries."
Ephesians 2:15 Col 2:16
This verse does not talk about the 7th day sabbath. It talks about ceremonial Sabbaths like Passover and the Day of Atonement
How do we know this?
"These are only a shadow of what is TO COME; but the substance belongs to Christ." 2:17
vs 17says that it points FORWARD to Christ
Passover points FORWARD to Jesus and the New Covenant
The Day of Atonement points FORWARD to Jesus dying on the cross.
BUT the 7th day Sabbath points BACK to creation.
All of the texts from Galatians are saying that no one is saved because they keep the law, we are saved by knowing and loving Jesus and trusting in His sacrifice. We are saved by Jesus. Still Jesus says “If you love me keep my commandments” John 15. You keep the commandments out of Love NOT in order to fain salvation.
I disagree with sunestauromai’s comment “They CLAIM that the church of the first century met on Saturday which is NOT TRUE”. The Bible CLEARLY says the apostles kept the Sabbath after Jesus went to Heaven
Acts 13:14
Acts 13:42
Acts 13:44
Acts 16:13
Acts 17:1-4
Acts 18:4
Did the Seventh-Day Adventist Church make it up or is it in the Bible? It’s the Bible there is no way around the fact that the apostles kept the Sabbath.
"Here is the patience of the saints, here are those who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and the faith of Jesus." Rev.14:12
Who gets eternal life?
"Blessed are those who DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city." Rev. 22:14
This video should help you understand the Sabbath better
http://www.forestlakechurch.org/upload/m...
2 Timothy 3:16
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness
1)All Scripture is God-breathed- all scripture comes from God through the men who wrote it The real author of the Bible is God.
2) And is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness – all of the scripture should be used because we can learn from all of it
email me if you have other questions.
Reply:As for the Sabbath....Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath. What does that mean? It means we have our Sabbath rest in Him. We celebrate the Sabbath every time we dwell on the things which God has done for us and the things which He continues to do. It's not a day. It's every second of every day. When you pray to Him, when you listen for His guidance, when you praise and honor Him...that is celebrating the Sabbath. People are so confused by this Sabbath question, I just don't understand?? It's Saturday, no, it's Sunday?? The Lord Jesus Christ has already risen! Your Sabbath rest is with and in Him! You are not alone, many don't understand this. 7th Day Adventists are particularly screwed up. I personally opt to stay away from anything they have to offer.
Mark 2:27 -
And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
Romans 6:14 -
For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace
Reply:We are not under Law but Grace. Read classic Christianity by Bob George. Also look up Grace and Law in a Bible concordance.
Reply:I do my Bible study with Dr. J. Vernon McGee at ttb.org. He is on the radio but if you miss him you can go online to hear his teachings. He is excellent. He believes that the whole Word of God is true, interesting teaching in Jonah. We are no longer bound to the old laws, but we are expected to produce good fruit.If you listen to this teacher, right now he is in Luke, you will receive much knowledge about Jesus and our relationship to Him.God Bless.
Reply:No, I have not done the study. Sorry.
Reply:Ephesians 2:15 Through his body on the cross, Christ put an END to the LAW WITH ALL ITS COMMANDS AND RULES. He wanted to create one new group of people out of the two. He wanted to make peace between them.
Colossians 2:14 He wiped out the written Law with its rules. The Law was against us. It opposed us. He took it away and nailed it to the cross.
Galatians 2:16 ...No one can be made right with God by obeying the law.
Galatians 2:21 ...What if a person could become right with God by obeying the law? Then Christ died for nothing!
Galatians 5:4 Some of you are trying to be made right with God by obeying the law. You have been separated from Christ. You have fallen away from God’s grace... The ONLY verse that talks about falling from grace, and they did it by trying to follow the law!
Jesus said he didn’t come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. (Matt 5:17) The effect was the same. Once fulfilled it was no longer in effect. The very next verse, Matthew 5:18, looks forward to the time when the law would be set aside. "...Not even the smallest stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED."
On the cross, Jesus' last recorded saying, "It is finished," is an important milestone. Because of Jesus life, Satan had been defeated. The law was finished and would no longer stand between God and mankind.
The 10 commandments along with the rest of the law ("commands and rules" from Ephesians 2:15) were "set aside" when they were fulfilled or completed at Jesus' resurrection. We are no longer bound by that law.
---%26gt; They CLAIM that the church of the first century met on Saturday which is NOT TRUE. Their claim that it was changed several centuries later does not hold water when Justin Martyr and Tertullian BOTH wrote of Christians "celebrating" Sunday several centuries before their supposed change.
Justin Martyr, First Apology, ch 67, 156 A.D. "And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things."
Tertullian, Ad Nationes, ch 13, c.200 A.D. "Others, with greater regard to good manners, it must be confessed, suppose that the sun is the god of the Christians, because it is a well-known fact that we pray towards the east, or because we make Sunday a day of festivity."
Reply:beware of the cults.
Reply:Have you seen the cholesterol in pork and do you really want to eat a mouse of bug. Sorry I will be serious
If you read in Acts and the letters of Paul you will see that the Gentiles were not held to the same laws, but that was a decision made by men. However Jesus said that what a man eats does not make a man unclean but his heart.
Mark 7
17After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable.
18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?
19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")
20He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' 21For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery,
22greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.
23All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.' "
I think it is OK to eat them but just looking at it from a health standpoint I have heard it said that the diet given to the Jews is about the most healthy.
Reply:Yeah. They live in a land of Legalism. Stay away. And as St. Paul said, "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food or drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." [Col. 2:16-17]
Amen!
Reply:If you know GOD's Word you would know that the Sabbath means Seventh or the seventh day of the week. We have come to see the sabbath as Sunday. GOD said we were to have a sabbath rest i Hebrews. In other words we are to work 6 days and rest one day. It does not matter what the daY is but we are to rest one day of our work week.
Reply:yes they go by the old law still which is really silly since Jesus came to set us free from all the bondage that it carried....I don't believe as they do and don't give them any of my time or attention
shark tooth
i think there is a lot of valuable information. But i have been totally confused since I did this study.( Its put on by seventh day adventists)
They pretty much say that we are still bound by the old laws like not eating pork or other unclean animals. We should follow the sabbath which is actually saturday etc..
I think it is all fine and good they have so many scriptures to back things up.
But i also hear many others talk about how after Jesus died we are no longer bond by the law. If you confess with your mouth jesus is Lord you are saved.
But we are also to follow in Christ's footsteps. He obeyed the law and followed the sabbath.
Any thoughts on this?
I am truly a God fearing, loving Christian who is looking for real answers.
Thanks
Has anyone done the bible study at amazing facts.com?
I have done the study
I would like to help, What part of it is confusing feel free to email me
Yes, many people say that since Jesus died we don't have to keep the 10 commandments?
But... if you ask them "Is it ok to murder" they say "No"
"Is it ok to steal" etc. they always say we should keep the commandments... until you ask about the Sabbath. Then people say "We don't have to keep the law, we are under grace, just believe in Jesus." but does believing in Jesus mean we don't have to keep the commandments?
"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31
Many people say "Just believe in God don't worry about obeying Him"
But what does Jesus say
"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46
There are people who say "Yes I am a Christian" but they don't obey God
Again Jesus talks about people who say "Forget the law"
"Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice LAWLESSNESS.” Luke 7:22-23
Many believe that we should not murder
They believe that we should not steal
They believe that we should not lie
They believe that we should not commit adultery
They believe that we should not be covetous
They believe that we should honor our parents
They believe that we should not worship other gods
They believe that we should not worship idols
They believe that we should not take the Lord's name in vain.
They believe we should keep 9 of the 10 commandments but they think we should forget the only commandment that starts with "REMEMBER".
Many people say keeping the Sabbath is legalism
Is it legalism to keep the other 9 commandments? Is it legalism to obey God? Again, if God tells us to do something is it legalism to obey?
If we don't do what God says isn't that sin?
For example
Look at Cain and Abel
"I know God wants an animal sacrifice, but I am going to bring fruits, stop being legalistic Abel."
Was Cain right? Or should he have done what God said?
Doing what God said is not called legalism it is called obedience. When people do not do what God says that is not called living under grace it is called SIN, and sinners will always try to make you feel guilty when you Obey God and do what God says.
NO ONE is saved by keeping the commandments. We are saved by grace... BUT if you know the commandment says keep the Sabbath Holy and you choose to willfully break the law Hebrews 10:26 says that
"For if we sin WILFULLY after that we have received the knowledge of the TRUTH, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries."
Ephesians 2:15 Col 2:16
This verse does not talk about the 7th day sabbath. It talks about ceremonial Sabbaths like Passover and the Day of Atonement
How do we know this?
"These are only a shadow of what is TO COME; but the substance belongs to Christ." 2:17
vs 17says that it points FORWARD to Christ
Passover points FORWARD to Jesus and the New Covenant
The Day of Atonement points FORWARD to Jesus dying on the cross.
BUT the 7th day Sabbath points BACK to creation.
All of the texts from Galatians are saying that no one is saved because they keep the law, we are saved by knowing and loving Jesus and trusting in His sacrifice. We are saved by Jesus. Still Jesus says “If you love me keep my commandments” John 15. You keep the commandments out of Love NOT in order to fain salvation.
I disagree with sunestauromai’s comment “They CLAIM that the church of the first century met on Saturday which is NOT TRUE”. The Bible CLEARLY says the apostles kept the Sabbath after Jesus went to Heaven
Acts 13:14
Acts 13:42
Acts 13:44
Acts 16:13
Acts 17:1-4
Acts 18:4
Did the Seventh-Day Adventist Church make it up or is it in the Bible? It’s the Bible there is no way around the fact that the apostles kept the Sabbath.
"Here is the patience of the saints, here are those who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and the faith of Jesus." Rev.14:12
Who gets eternal life?
"Blessed are those who DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city." Rev. 22:14
This video should help you understand the Sabbath better
http://www.forestlakechurch.org/upload/m...
2 Timothy 3:16
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness
1)All Scripture is God-breathed- all scripture comes from God through the men who wrote it The real author of the Bible is God.
2) And is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness – all of the scripture should be used because we can learn from all of it
email me if you have other questions.
Reply:As for the Sabbath....Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath. What does that mean? It means we have our Sabbath rest in Him. We celebrate the Sabbath every time we dwell on the things which God has done for us and the things which He continues to do. It's not a day. It's every second of every day. When you pray to Him, when you listen for His guidance, when you praise and honor Him...that is celebrating the Sabbath. People are so confused by this Sabbath question, I just don't understand?? It's Saturday, no, it's Sunday?? The Lord Jesus Christ has already risen! Your Sabbath rest is with and in Him! You are not alone, many don't understand this. 7th Day Adventists are particularly screwed up. I personally opt to stay away from anything they have to offer.
Mark 2:27 -
And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
Romans 6:14 -
For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace
Reply:We are not under Law but Grace. Read classic Christianity by Bob George. Also look up Grace and Law in a Bible concordance.
Reply:I do my Bible study with Dr. J. Vernon McGee at ttb.org. He is on the radio but if you miss him you can go online to hear his teachings. He is excellent. He believes that the whole Word of God is true, interesting teaching in Jonah. We are no longer bound to the old laws, but we are expected to produce good fruit.If you listen to this teacher, right now he is in Luke, you will receive much knowledge about Jesus and our relationship to Him.God Bless.
Reply:No, I have not done the study. Sorry.
Reply:Ephesians 2:15 Through his body on the cross, Christ put an END to the LAW WITH ALL ITS COMMANDS AND RULES. He wanted to create one new group of people out of the two. He wanted to make peace between them.
Colossians 2:14 He wiped out the written Law with its rules. The Law was against us. It opposed us. He took it away and nailed it to the cross.
Galatians 2:16 ...No one can be made right with God by obeying the law.
Galatians 2:21 ...What if a person could become right with God by obeying the law? Then Christ died for nothing!
Galatians 5:4 Some of you are trying to be made right with God by obeying the law. You have been separated from Christ. You have fallen away from God’s grace... The ONLY verse that talks about falling from grace, and they did it by trying to follow the law!
Jesus said he didn’t come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. (Matt 5:17) The effect was the same. Once fulfilled it was no longer in effect. The very next verse, Matthew 5:18, looks forward to the time when the law would be set aside. "...Not even the smallest stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED."
On the cross, Jesus' last recorded saying, "It is finished," is an important milestone. Because of Jesus life, Satan had been defeated. The law was finished and would no longer stand between God and mankind.
The 10 commandments along with the rest of the law ("commands and rules" from Ephesians 2:15) were "set aside" when they were fulfilled or completed at Jesus' resurrection. We are no longer bound by that law.
---%26gt; They CLAIM that the church of the first century met on Saturday which is NOT TRUE. Their claim that it was changed several centuries later does not hold water when Justin Martyr and Tertullian BOTH wrote of Christians "celebrating" Sunday several centuries before their supposed change.
Justin Martyr, First Apology, ch 67, 156 A.D. "And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things."
Tertullian, Ad Nationes, ch 13, c.200 A.D. "Others, with greater regard to good manners, it must be confessed, suppose that the sun is the god of the Christians, because it is a well-known fact that we pray towards the east, or because we make Sunday a day of festivity."
Reply:beware of the cults.
Reply:Have you seen the cholesterol in pork and do you really want to eat a mouse of bug. Sorry I will be serious
If you read in Acts and the letters of Paul you will see that the Gentiles were not held to the same laws, but that was a decision made by men. However Jesus said that what a man eats does not make a man unclean but his heart.
Mark 7
17After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable.
18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?
19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")
20He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' 21For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery,
22greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.
23All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.' "
I think it is OK to eat them but just looking at it from a health standpoint I have heard it said that the diet given to the Jews is about the most healthy.
Reply:Yeah. They live in a land of Legalism. Stay away. And as St. Paul said, "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food or drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." [Col. 2:16-17]
Amen!
Reply:If you know GOD's Word you would know that the Sabbath means Seventh or the seventh day of the week. We have come to see the sabbath as Sunday. GOD said we were to have a sabbath rest i Hebrews. In other words we are to work 6 days and rest one day. It does not matter what the daY is but we are to rest one day of our work week.
Reply:yes they go by the old law still which is really silly since Jesus came to set us free from all the bondage that it carried....I don't believe as they do and don't give them any of my time or attention
shark tooth
Can someone suggest a good study Bible for me?
I'm a new Christian believer though i've been roughly familiar with the bible for a few years now. I want to find a good study bible, preferably of the NKJV. I picked up a NLT study bible and i'm enjoying it but I also want to explore others. Any suggestions?
Can someone suggest a good study Bible for me?
Edit:
I do see some confusion here between FORMAT and Bible VERSIONS. The Life Application Bible is a study Bible format. It has footnotes and charts and helpful explanations about the people in the Bible. The LAB comes in various translations such as NIV and NKJV.
Somebody mentioned the NWT. That is not a study Bible so it does not answer this question.
Dear Southern,
The first study Bible I got (1991) was The Life Application Bible.
The one I bought most recently (February 2008) was The MacArthur Study Bible. It was hard to decide between that one and The Apologetics Bible.
There are just so many excellent study Bibles on the market these days so I recommend going to a big book store like Barnes and Noble or else to a Christian book store and look through them to see what appeals to you. If you participate in a Bible study, just look around at the various Bibles other participants use. Ask them what they like or dislike about their study Bible.
I bought The Reformation Study Bible (ESV) because R.C. Sproul is the General Editor for it. I've been enjoying his program (Renewing Your Mind) on my Christian radio station for several years now.
All of the study Bibles I have complement each other so I don't think you can go wrong by picking one. When I look at study Bibles I check to see what the footnotes are for some of my favorite Bible verses, for example, John 1:1 and Psalm 23. I especially look at what they say on the book of Ruth. It is a small book, only 4 chapters, but I've found hundreds of pages of excellent material on those 4 chapters.
I bought The Archaeological Study Bible last year because it had Cultural and Historical Notes on things which I have not seen in my other study Bibles. The Maxwell Leadership Bible (NKJV) has articles pertaining to Irrefutable Laws of Leadership.
For His glory,
JOYfilled
Reply:http://www.venganza.org/
Reply:try to find some bit which is believable
Reply:http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
Great margin notes.
Reply:Life Application Bible
It comes in different versions. It is a WONDERFUL study Bible.
Reply:the key word bible is a good one and the new living peoples bible is great for just startingout i started on that one and it helped me understand alot God bless you
Reply:The New King King James is an excellent translation for a new believer. I have a Charles Stanley NKJV Life principles bible that I absolutely love. I also read out of a NKJV life application study bible by Tyndale which is also an excellent bible... both of them have excellent foot notes with the Tyndale going more in depth and detail explaining each chapter you just read .Charles Stanley's has a few less in the foot note area. You can check them both out in a book store and decide for yourself... hope that helped answer your question. God bless !
Reply:Nelson Study Bible, NKJV. It's EXCELLENT. Contains maps, inserts, and excellent commentary over every verse. Go to their site. It's great.
*-NKJV is the way to go. It contains the most accurate interpretations from the greek manuscripts but omits the th's. Trust me on this bud. Also, welcome to the family! If you have any questions, email me. All these people that say let the Holy Spirit speak to you, that's great, but you still could use some more insight. Trust me bud... it's great. Truth filled, apocrypha free!
----%26gt; the NIV's are okay, along with the other versions that translate into modern english, but I would not recommend them if you think you might want to go deep into the Bible, such as Prophecy.... or well... anything really. They just give you the basic idea. NKJV and KJV are they way to go. Not that NIV's are taboo or anything. Ya'll get me.
Reply:NIV is a pretty good one
Reply:Just read the bible.
Why do you need someone to tell you what God is trying to say to you?
Start with John 16, and then start from the beginning.
Reply:Doesn't matter. They'll all point you towards the same direction anyway.
Reply:Ive got the NRSV Life application...its grreat!
Reply:scofield study system is a tried and true one that has been around for a long time. the kjv is a little harder to read, but that will slow you down and make you think a little.....
Reply:New world Translation, It's the most accurate Bible in the world, the English version,is easy to read.
Reply:I don`t know the english best one but search for one being close to the translation from hebrew to your mothertongue.
ups, thought you meant which bible would be best to study. Just invite the holy spirit and read the bible with him.
Reply:there are many websites that offer bible study skills such as e-sword. Download the program there and download bible versions. They have definitions, the original meaning in the first language, verse comparison, verse memorizing methods, etc, etc
Reply:Its true that all bibles say the same thing. But its just a matter of translation. Its definitely easier to read something in a language you understand. God never meant for His Word the Bible to be hard to understand. The Bible has been preserved for years and years and has been translated in soo many different ways. The New World Translation is a modern language translation thats easy to read and study. I commend you for reaching out and finding truth in Gods word.
Reply:Stop studding and start LIVING.
Reply:Watch this and do a study:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFx6B3Lww...
Reply:RSV-CE
Reply:I like the Thompson Study Bible, mine is a Reina Valera 1960 but Im sure it comes in the NKJV.
Can someone suggest a good study Bible for me?
Edit:
I do see some confusion here between FORMAT and Bible VERSIONS. The Life Application Bible is a study Bible format. It has footnotes and charts and helpful explanations about the people in the Bible. The LAB comes in various translations such as NIV and NKJV.
Somebody mentioned the NWT. That is not a study Bible so it does not answer this question.
Dear Southern,
The first study Bible I got (1991) was The Life Application Bible.
The one I bought most recently (February 2008) was The MacArthur Study Bible. It was hard to decide between that one and The Apologetics Bible.
There are just so many excellent study Bibles on the market these days so I recommend going to a big book store like Barnes and Noble or else to a Christian book store and look through them to see what appeals to you. If you participate in a Bible study, just look around at the various Bibles other participants use. Ask them what they like or dislike about their study Bible.
I bought The Reformation Study Bible (ESV) because R.C. Sproul is the General Editor for it. I've been enjoying his program (Renewing Your Mind) on my Christian radio station for several years now.
All of the study Bibles I have complement each other so I don't think you can go wrong by picking one. When I look at study Bibles I check to see what the footnotes are for some of my favorite Bible verses, for example, John 1:1 and Psalm 23. I especially look at what they say on the book of Ruth. It is a small book, only 4 chapters, but I've found hundreds of pages of excellent material on those 4 chapters.
I bought The Archaeological Study Bible last year because it had Cultural and Historical Notes on things which I have not seen in my other study Bibles. The Maxwell Leadership Bible (NKJV) has articles pertaining to Irrefutable Laws of Leadership.
For His glory,
JOYfilled
Reply:http://www.venganza.org/
Reply:try to find some bit which is believable
Reply:http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
Great margin notes.
Reply:Life Application Bible
It comes in different versions. It is a WONDERFUL study Bible.
Reply:the key word bible is a good one and the new living peoples bible is great for just startingout i started on that one and it helped me understand alot God bless you
Reply:The New King King James is an excellent translation for a new believer. I have a Charles Stanley NKJV Life principles bible that I absolutely love. I also read out of a NKJV life application study bible by Tyndale which is also an excellent bible... both of them have excellent foot notes with the Tyndale going more in depth and detail explaining each chapter you just read .Charles Stanley's has a few less in the foot note area. You can check them both out in a book store and decide for yourself... hope that helped answer your question. God bless !
Reply:Nelson Study Bible, NKJV. It's EXCELLENT. Contains maps, inserts, and excellent commentary over every verse. Go to their site. It's great.
*-NKJV is the way to go. It contains the most accurate interpretations from the greek manuscripts but omits the th's. Trust me on this bud. Also, welcome to the family! If you have any questions, email me. All these people that say let the Holy Spirit speak to you, that's great, but you still could use some more insight. Trust me bud... it's great. Truth filled, apocrypha free!
----%26gt; the NIV's are okay, along with the other versions that translate into modern english, but I would not recommend them if you think you might want to go deep into the Bible, such as Prophecy.... or well... anything really. They just give you the basic idea. NKJV and KJV are they way to go. Not that NIV's are taboo or anything. Ya'll get me.
Reply:NIV is a pretty good one
Reply:Just read the bible.
Why do you need someone to tell you what God is trying to say to you?
Start with John 16, and then start from the beginning.
Reply:Doesn't matter. They'll all point you towards the same direction anyway.
Reply:Ive got the NRSV Life application...its grreat!
Reply:scofield study system is a tried and true one that has been around for a long time. the kjv is a little harder to read, but that will slow you down and make you think a little.....
Reply:New world Translation, It's the most accurate Bible in the world, the English version,is easy to read.
Reply:I don`t know the english best one but search for one being close to the translation from hebrew to your mothertongue.
ups, thought you meant which bible would be best to study. Just invite the holy spirit and read the bible with him.
Reply:there are many websites that offer bible study skills such as e-sword. Download the program there and download bible versions. They have definitions, the original meaning in the first language, verse comparison, verse memorizing methods, etc, etc
Reply:Its true that all bibles say the same thing. But its just a matter of translation. Its definitely easier to read something in a language you understand. God never meant for His Word the Bible to be hard to understand. The Bible has been preserved for years and years and has been translated in soo many different ways. The New World Translation is a modern language translation thats easy to read and study. I commend you for reaching out and finding truth in Gods word.
Reply:Stop studding and start LIVING.
Reply:Watch this and do a study:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFx6B3Lww...
Reply:RSV-CE
Reply:I like the Thompson Study Bible, mine is a Reina Valera 1960 but Im sure it comes in the NKJV.
Reformation Study Bible- ESV Text?
Hi
I am looking into buying this study bible. Does anyone have this or can tell me if the size of the text is too small or not?? I am going for an average size... not too cluttered, I want the print to be quite big but not too big that there is no space when reading it. I need air space. Anyway yeah I would have to wait and order it to see the text size. So I appreciate if any of you have this version to let me know!
Please don't post stupid comments or I will report you!! %26gt;=)
God Bless! Happy New Year =)
Reformation Study Bible- ESV Text?
The text is average for a study bible. I have held the book in my hand, I thought it was okay. I recall reading that the text is 9 or 10 pt, with the footnotes being smaller. The exact number is at Ligonier's or Crossway's website.
However, readability is also effected by typestyle, spacing, and other features. You can see the pages for yourself here:
http://secure.ligonier.org/publishing_st...
Reply:I am not familiar with it. I would not recommend buying anything you can't look at. Even if the print were too small for me, you might like it. (and vice versa)
Reply:allbibles.com
Most entries include font size and other specifications.
I know you didn't ask, but the best study (scholarly) bibles are
1) New Jerusalem Bible, Regular Edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i...
2) Oxford Annotated NRSV Augmented 3rd Edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i...
3) Oxford Annotated RSV Expanded Edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i...
The NJB is the better translation, with excellent study notes and an excellent reference system. The NRSV is a gender-inclusive translation (which is bad) but has even better study notes and is currently the academic standard. The RSV is not gender-inclusive and is one of the more literal translations, but is about 50 years old and shows some usage of archaic language. However, it is supposed to have excellent study notes on par with choice #2.
I hope this helps.
Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/
Reply:very good Bible in my favorite translation. It's a word for word so you should have no questions of doubt as to how accurate it is. Very easy to read too without being like a 4th grade reading level.
As far as text size, That's really hard to determine for someone else. Are you ordering it from the internet or a bookstore? Either way, the ESV is pretty good about keeping a good text size. However, if you want to keep it safe, I would order a Large Print version of this Bible. If it's a really detailed study Bible, then "large print" isn't as large as some people imagine it to be.
I am looking into buying this study bible. Does anyone have this or can tell me if the size of the text is too small or not?? I am going for an average size... not too cluttered, I want the print to be quite big but not too big that there is no space when reading it. I need air space. Anyway yeah I would have to wait and order it to see the text size. So I appreciate if any of you have this version to let me know!
Please don't post stupid comments or I will report you!! %26gt;=)
God Bless! Happy New Year =)
Reformation Study Bible- ESV Text?
The text is average for a study bible. I have held the book in my hand, I thought it was okay. I recall reading that the text is 9 or 10 pt, with the footnotes being smaller. The exact number is at Ligonier's or Crossway's website.
However, readability is also effected by typestyle, spacing, and other features. You can see the pages for yourself here:
http://secure.ligonier.org/publishing_st...
Reply:I am not familiar with it. I would not recommend buying anything you can't look at. Even if the print were too small for me, you might like it. (and vice versa)
Reply:allbibles.com
Most entries include font size and other specifications.
I know you didn't ask, but the best study (scholarly) bibles are
1) New Jerusalem Bible, Regular Edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i...
2) Oxford Annotated NRSV Augmented 3rd Edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i...
3) Oxford Annotated RSV Expanded Edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?i...
The NJB is the better translation, with excellent study notes and an excellent reference system. The NRSV is a gender-inclusive translation (which is bad) but has even better study notes and is currently the academic standard. The RSV is not gender-inclusive and is one of the more literal translations, but is about 50 years old and shows some usage of archaic language. However, it is supposed to have excellent study notes on par with choice #2.
I hope this helps.
Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/
Reply:very good Bible in my favorite translation. It's a word for word so you should have no questions of doubt as to how accurate it is. Very easy to read too without being like a 4th grade reading level.
As far as text size, That's really hard to determine for someone else. Are you ordering it from the internet or a bookstore? Either way, the ESV is pretty good about keeping a good text size. However, if you want to keep it safe, I would order a Large Print version of this Bible. If it's a really detailed study Bible, then "large print" isn't as large as some people imagine it to be.
Bible study? Describe the Holy Spirit and its work?
Bible scriptures would be helpful. Thanks!
Bible study? Describe the Holy Spirit and its work?
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word most frequently used for “spirit” is "ruach", meaning “breath; wind; spirit.” In the Greek Scriptures, the word is "pneuma", having a similar meaning.
"After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him." -- Matthew 3:16
The Holy Spirit is a force, not a person.
"But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand." -- 7:55
Can a person be full of another person? No.
"And I will request the Father and he will give YOU another helper to be with YOU forever, the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither beholds it nor knows it. YOU know it, because it remains with YOU and is in YOU." -- John 14:16
The Holy Spirit is offerd by God. It is a "helper". And again a person can't have another person it himself ("it remains with you and is in you").
"And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb." -- Revelation 7:10
Where is the Holy Spirit?
For more information go to:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/ti/art...
Reply:Also consider John 16 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Report Abuse
Reply:9Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Report Abuse
Reply:13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. Report Abuse
Reply:i desribed the holy spirit to my 8 year old grand daughter like this ,it is like the air your breath,you can't see it, you can't reach out and touch it,but you know its there,and without it you can't live. Report Abuse
Reply:The Holy Spirit is supposed to be the conviction of truth.Christ said we are all born with the Laws of God written in our heart.The Holy Spirit confirms Christ's teaching that the Kinfdom of God is within you.(Luke 17:21)
Reply:Cleans Highways.
Lo, I have made the path.
"Have you found the Highway to Heaven?
Christ tells us He is the way, the straight and narrow path to
be traveled by trust
in Him alone."
Reply:The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a Person. In John chapters 14, 15, and 16, for example, Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit as "He" because He has all the attributes of personality and is not merely an impersonal force. Jesus also referred to the Holy Spirit as the Comforter or the Counselor (John 14:16 and 15:26). This title conveys the ideas of advising, exhorting, comforting, strengthening, interceding, and encouraging.
In addition, the Bible makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is God Himself. In Acts 5:1-4 a man who lied to the Holy Spirit is said to have lied to God. The Holy Spirit also is described in the Bible as having the characteristics of God and doing God's work. He convicts people of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8-11) and gives new life to those who trust in Jesus (John 3:8). That He is the third Person of the Holy Trinity is made clear by His inclusion with the Father and the Son in such Bible passages as Matthew 28:19. Here the apostles are commanded to baptize those who receive the Gospel "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
In the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon people, anointing them for a specific task or purpose (Exodus 31:1-5; Numbers 24:2). In the New Testament, the Holy Spirit dwells within all believers (1 Corinthians 6:19), assures them that they are children of God (Romans 8:16), enables them to live the Christian life (Romans 8:9, 12-15), and gifts them for Christian service (1 Corinthians, chapter 12).
Reply:The Holy spirit is what accompanies the divine word of the Father, just as breadth accompanies words of men. The presence of the H spirit was said to be our salvation once we have accept Christ. It is G's presence on Earth.
Reply:The Holy Spirit is a he not an it. He is a divine personality with seven facets:comforter, counselor, strengthener, standby, advocate, intercessor, and helper. You can read John 12-14, then the book of Acts. That should be a good Bible study for you.
Reply:After the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ, of all the other gifts given to mankind by God, there is none greater than the presence of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit has many functions, roles, and activities. First, He does a work in the hearts of all people everywhere. Jesus told the disciples that He would send the Spirit into the world to “convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment” (John 16:7-11). Everyone has a “God consciousness,” whether they admit it or not, because the Spirit applies the truths of God to men’s own minds as to convince them by fair and sufficient arguments that they are sinners. Responding to that conviction brings men to salvation.
Once we are saved and belong to God, the Spirit takes up residence in our hearts forever, sealing us with the confirming, certifying, and assuring pledge of our eternal state as His children. Jesus said He would send the Spirit to us to be our Helper, Comforter, and Guide. “And I will pray the Father and He will give you another Helper that He may abide with you forever” (John 14:16). The Greek word translated here “Helper” means one who is called alongside and has the idea of someone who encourages and exhorts. “Abiding” has to do with His permanent residence in the hearts of believers (Romans 8:9; 1 Corinthians 6:19, 20; 12:13). Jesus gave the Spirit as a “compensation” for His absence, to perform the functions toward us which He would have done if He had remained personally with us.
Among those functions is that of revealer of truth. The Spirit’s presence within us enables us to understand and interpret the Word. Jesus told His disciples “when He, the Spirit of Truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth” (John 16:13). He reveals to our minds the whole counsel of God as it relates to worship, doctrine, and Christian living. He is the ultimate guide, going before, leading the way, removing obstructions, opening the understanding, and making all things plain and clear. He leads in the way we should go in all spiritual things. Without such a guide, we would be apt to fall into error. A crucial part of the Truth He reveals is that Jesus is who He said He is (John 15:26; 1 Corinthians 12:3). The Spirit convinces us of Christ’s deity and sonship, His incarnation, His being the Messiah, His sufferings and death, His resurrection and ascension, His exaltation at the right hand of God, and His role as the Judge of all. He gives glory to Christ in all things (John 16:14).
Another of His roles is that of gift-giver. First Corinthians 12 describes the spiritual gifts given to believers in order that we may function as the body of Christ on earth. All these gifts, both great and small, are given by the Spirit so that we may be His ambassadors to the world, showing forth His grace and glorifying Him.
The Spirit also functions as fruit-producer in our lives. When He indwells us, He begins the work of harvesting His fruit in our lives - love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, meekness, and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23). These are not works of our flesh, which is incapable of producing such fruit, but they are products of the Spirit’s presence in our lives.
The knowledge that the Holy Spirit of God has taken up residence in our lives, that He performs all these miraculous functions, that He dwells with us forever and will never leave or forsake us is cause for great joy and comfort. Thank God for this precious Gift – the Holy Spirit and His work in our lives!
Bible study? Describe the Holy Spirit and its work?
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word most frequently used for “spirit” is "ruach", meaning “breath; wind; spirit.” In the Greek Scriptures, the word is "pneuma", having a similar meaning.
"After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him." -- Matthew 3:16
The Holy Spirit is a force, not a person.
"But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand." -- 7:55
Can a person be full of another person? No.
"And I will request the Father and he will give YOU another helper to be with YOU forever, the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither beholds it nor knows it. YOU know it, because it remains with YOU and is in YOU." -- John 14:16
The Holy Spirit is offerd by God. It is a "helper". And again a person can't have another person it himself ("it remains with you and is in you").
"And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb." -- Revelation 7:10
Where is the Holy Spirit?
For more information go to:
http://www.watchtower.org/library/ti/art...
Reply:Also consider John 16 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Report Abuse
Reply:9Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Report Abuse
Reply:13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you. Report Abuse
Reply:i desribed the holy spirit to my 8 year old grand daughter like this ,it is like the air your breath,you can't see it, you can't reach out and touch it,but you know its there,and without it you can't live. Report Abuse
Reply:The Holy Spirit is supposed to be the conviction of truth.Christ said we are all born with the Laws of God written in our heart.The Holy Spirit confirms Christ's teaching that the Kinfdom of God is within you.(Luke 17:21)
Reply:Cleans Highways.
Lo, I have made the path.
"Have you found the Highway to Heaven?
Christ tells us He is the way, the straight and narrow path to
be traveled by trust
in Him alone."
Reply:The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a Person. In John chapters 14, 15, and 16, for example, Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit as "He" because He has all the attributes of personality and is not merely an impersonal force. Jesus also referred to the Holy Spirit as the Comforter or the Counselor (John 14:16 and 15:26). This title conveys the ideas of advising, exhorting, comforting, strengthening, interceding, and encouraging.
In addition, the Bible makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is God Himself. In Acts 5:1-4 a man who lied to the Holy Spirit is said to have lied to God. The Holy Spirit also is described in the Bible as having the characteristics of God and doing God's work. He convicts people of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8-11) and gives new life to those who trust in Jesus (John 3:8). That He is the third Person of the Holy Trinity is made clear by His inclusion with the Father and the Son in such Bible passages as Matthew 28:19. Here the apostles are commanded to baptize those who receive the Gospel "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
In the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon people, anointing them for a specific task or purpose (Exodus 31:1-5; Numbers 24:2). In the New Testament, the Holy Spirit dwells within all believers (1 Corinthians 6:19), assures them that they are children of God (Romans 8:16), enables them to live the Christian life (Romans 8:9, 12-15), and gifts them for Christian service (1 Corinthians, chapter 12).
Reply:The Holy spirit is what accompanies the divine word of the Father, just as breadth accompanies words of men. The presence of the H spirit was said to be our salvation once we have accept Christ. It is G's presence on Earth.
Reply:The Holy Spirit is a he not an it. He is a divine personality with seven facets:comforter, counselor, strengthener, standby, advocate, intercessor, and helper. You can read John 12-14, then the book of Acts. That should be a good Bible study for you.
Reply:After the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ, of all the other gifts given to mankind by God, there is none greater than the presence of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit has many functions, roles, and activities. First, He does a work in the hearts of all people everywhere. Jesus told the disciples that He would send the Spirit into the world to “convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment” (John 16:7-11). Everyone has a “God consciousness,” whether they admit it or not, because the Spirit applies the truths of God to men’s own minds as to convince them by fair and sufficient arguments that they are sinners. Responding to that conviction brings men to salvation.
Once we are saved and belong to God, the Spirit takes up residence in our hearts forever, sealing us with the confirming, certifying, and assuring pledge of our eternal state as His children. Jesus said He would send the Spirit to us to be our Helper, Comforter, and Guide. “And I will pray the Father and He will give you another Helper that He may abide with you forever” (John 14:16). The Greek word translated here “Helper” means one who is called alongside and has the idea of someone who encourages and exhorts. “Abiding” has to do with His permanent residence in the hearts of believers (Romans 8:9; 1 Corinthians 6:19, 20; 12:13). Jesus gave the Spirit as a “compensation” for His absence, to perform the functions toward us which He would have done if He had remained personally with us.
Among those functions is that of revealer of truth. The Spirit’s presence within us enables us to understand and interpret the Word. Jesus told His disciples “when He, the Spirit of Truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth” (John 16:13). He reveals to our minds the whole counsel of God as it relates to worship, doctrine, and Christian living. He is the ultimate guide, going before, leading the way, removing obstructions, opening the understanding, and making all things plain and clear. He leads in the way we should go in all spiritual things. Without such a guide, we would be apt to fall into error. A crucial part of the Truth He reveals is that Jesus is who He said He is (John 15:26; 1 Corinthians 12:3). The Spirit convinces us of Christ’s deity and sonship, His incarnation, His being the Messiah, His sufferings and death, His resurrection and ascension, His exaltation at the right hand of God, and His role as the Judge of all. He gives glory to Christ in all things (John 16:14).
Another of His roles is that of gift-giver. First Corinthians 12 describes the spiritual gifts given to believers in order that we may function as the body of Christ on earth. All these gifts, both great and small, are given by the Spirit so that we may be His ambassadors to the world, showing forth His grace and glorifying Him.
The Spirit also functions as fruit-producer in our lives. When He indwells us, He begins the work of harvesting His fruit in our lives - love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, meekness, and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23). These are not works of our flesh, which is incapable of producing such fruit, but they are products of the Spirit’s presence in our lives.
The knowledge that the Holy Spirit of God has taken up residence in our lives, that He performs all these miraculous functions, that He dwells with us forever and will never leave or forsake us is cause for great joy and comfort. Thank God for this precious Gift – the Holy Spirit and His work in our lives!
Bible Study? How did Isaiah know that Jesus would come as the sacrificial lamb of God?
Provide Bible scriptures if possible.
Bible Study? How did Isaiah know that Jesus would come as the sacrificial lamb of God?
Isaiah Chapters 52%26amp;53. I'll let you read it. I can't keep my eyes open at the moment.
Reply:LAMB OF GOD?
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Reply:Many times the prophets of the Old Testament did not even know the full extent of the prophecies they were writing. Guided by the Holy Spirit they wrote prophecies whose full significance was known only later. So Isaiah writing 600 years before Jesus may or may not have known about the life of Jesus. However the New Testament authors interpreted Isaiah's prophecies in the light of the life and teachings of Jesus.
Reply:I'm assuming you're a christian because you said 'Bible Study'. I'm sure you've heard about prophecies before. That's what Isaiah did. He prophecied about what was going to happend to Jesus.
Reply:Jesus (the Lord (not lord), Genesis-Malachi)
told him.
Reply:he didnt. he was writing exclusively about judaism.
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Bible Study? How did Isaiah know that Jesus would come as the sacrificial lamb of God?
Isaiah Chapters 52%26amp;53. I'll let you read it. I can't keep my eyes open at the moment.
Reply:LAMB OF GOD?
^band
Reply:Many times the prophets of the Old Testament did not even know the full extent of the prophecies they were writing. Guided by the Holy Spirit they wrote prophecies whose full significance was known only later. So Isaiah writing 600 years before Jesus may or may not have known about the life of Jesus. However the New Testament authors interpreted Isaiah's prophecies in the light of the life and teachings of Jesus.
Reply:I'm assuming you're a christian because you said 'Bible Study'. I'm sure you've heard about prophecies before. That's what Isaiah did. He prophecied about what was going to happend to Jesus.
Reply:Jesus (the Lord (not lord), Genesis-Malachi)
told him.
Reply:he didnt. he was writing exclusively about judaism.
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Not being "allowed" to hold a Bible Study in a public bldg. is stepping on what Constitutional Law here?
Of course this is a 1st Amendment issue. However I fail to see how allowing a Bible study in a public building can be construed as Congress passing a law respecting the establishment of a religion. The U.S. Supreme Court, not Congress, has enacted all laws barring this. However, it possibly could be argued that the "prohibiting the free exercise thereof" clause in the 1st Amendment may come into play here.
Not being "allowed" to hold a Bible Study in a public bldg. is stepping on what Constitutional Law here?
If the public building is otherwise open for other civic groups, you CANNOT be prohibited from having Bible study there. Such a regulation violates the Free Speech, Free Assembly, and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Now, if (a) this is a school and the teacher is leading the Bible study, this MAY be prohibited in certain circumstances, and (b) if the public building does not normally allow people to have gatherings there, you don't have to be accommodated.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/rel_...
Reply:What if they wanted to study the Koran? Would you still be upset? The safe bet is to keep religion out of politics and politics out of religion.
Reply:Your right to the free practice of your religion is what is being violated.
Allowing religious groups to use otherwise unused public space THAT THEIR TAXES PAID FOR does not, in the mind of any rational or reasonable person, constitute establishment of a religion, by any stretch of the imagination.
If any other kind of group is allowed to meet there, then there is no reason religious groups should be prevented from meeting there.
Regardless of the ACLU and liberal judges trampling upon peoples' freedom to practice religion, the fact remains that allowing religious groups the same access to public buildings as non-religious groups is not violating any aspect of the Constitution. Period.
I have spoken.
Reply:If a public building allows religious meetings for one religion, then they would have to allow all of them. They'd have Islamic meetings, Wiccan meetings, Santoria meetings and so on. If they didn't do so, they could be accused of promoting a specific religion, which is against the law. Do you want the buildings you pay for through your taxes to be used to promote satanism, witchcraft, or animal sacrifice? If the answer is no, then you can't have Bible study in those buildings either.
Reply:You can Assymble anywhere You wish and Read Your Bible anytime, any place That includes the WORKPLACE!
The First Amendment
The Separation of Church and State is a quote From Thomas Jefferson the Buddhist, MEANING THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT INTERFERE OR MAKE LAWS TELLING CHURCHES WHAT TO TEACH,PREACH, or CHANGE THEIR DOCTRINAL BELIEFS! They CANNOT MAKE LAWS TO ARREST PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR Religious BELIEFS! There is NO GOVERNMENT MANDATED RELIGION EITHER. YOU ARE FREE NOT TO HAVE A RELIGION OR NOT PARTICIPATE IN ONE....Individuals and GROUPS Have the right to REDRESS government with their Religoius BELIEFS!
Get those Commies and Deport them to Mother Russia or Cuba where they will be Happier or give them to Hugo Chavez so he can bore them to death with his Nightly Bedtime stories of how wonderful he is as their god! And BELIEVE In Nothing, except wht the STATE tells them!
Reply:most misinterpreted amendment ever. It was meant to stop the government from establishing a state religion, to keep it from banning religions. If any other group is allowed to use the room, keeping a religious group from using it as well is a violation
Reply:I don't see a big deal in holding a bible study class in a public building. It is really not establishing a religion by the gov. I presume they're paying rent to use the facility. There are several "churchs" (catholic and otherwise) that started holding services in a public grade or high-school until their church was built. One cannot reasonably argue that the public/gov is establishing a religion in that case. Now, like in texas, if they want to have public school classes on bible study- I have an issue with that.
Reply:Freedom of association: 1st Amendment.
Reply:should have paid attention in high school government class sweetie...
Reply:There is a thing called SEPERATION of Church and State in our land.....
Reply:May I refer you to the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
Reply:People, I realize some of you are very passionate about what you believe in, but can you please THINK before you post? Please?
You should be able to practice your religion anywhere you want? Anywhere? Really? Stop for a minute and reflect on how ludicrous this statement is. You sure can't practice your religion in my house. You can't hold a Bible study in the middle of an Interstate highway. You can't hold it in the White House (and I mean, you, you personally). You can't hold it in a synagogue.
Let's get the three ground rules straight here: (1) There is no general Consitutional right to do whatever you want anywhere you want anytime you want to do it. Trust me, there isn't. (2) Even if you do have a Constitutional right to do something, that still does not entail the right to do it anywhere you want, anytime you want, and in any manner you want. Trust me, it doesn't. (3) It is the job of the courts -- not the public, and certainly not the church -- to interpret the Constitution. That too is in the Constitution.
Time and again, the courts have interpreted the First Amendment to mean that the government is prohibited from establishing a state religion. Proclaiming a religion as such isn't the only way to "establish" it. Publicly endorsing one religion over others, and providing it with preferential access to government facilities and services are also tantamount to establishing it as a "state religion". Accordingly, the government has a dilemma: it must either accommodate all religions equally, or accommodate no one. So, back to what the EDUCATED posters here said: if you want to hold your Bible study in the public building, you have to live with the fact that Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, Santorians, Animists, and Voodoo practitioners will also hold their religious activities in that same building. Don't like it? Then rent a private space to practice your religion, like everyone else.
Let me restate once again: It is the specific job of the courts to interpret the Constitution. It is neither illegal nor otherwise wrong for the Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution; it is the courts' job. And, contrary to what the subsequent poster said, the Supreme Court has not enacted any laws establishing any religion as the national religion.
Added: Of course, Congress would not be making a decision here as to who should be allowed to worship in a public building. But Congress does make laws that require people to fund public buildings. Therefore, granting preferential access to those buildings to members of one sect would in fact require everyone -- by act of Congress -- to contribute to that sect financially. If a church tax isn't an "establishment of religion", I don't know what is.
Reply:"Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Amendment I of the Bill of Rights to the Constitution.
Reply:None. there is NO separation of church and state other than a reference by (I think) Thomas Jefferson in a letter, where he stated that the STATE shall not interfere with the business of the church, NOT vise versa, as the liberals are making it out to be.
No where in the constitution will you find a separation of church and state. It is a conceived notion that has snowballed over the years.
I am not saying that the church should run the government by any means, but the government is trying to run the church by mandating what they can preach, whom they HAVE to marry or allow in positions of authority within the church, ect.
So far they have failed, but they keep trying from time to time.
It's all showing how close we are to the rapture and the begining of the end.
You do need to respect the wishes of those in charge of the building, but if it's a public building for public use, you are within your rights to have a bible study as long as they are allowing other organizations to use it.
Reply:It depends on the "public building" your in. If it's a privately owned building, then the owner may have the right to evict anyone they wish, especially if you are pushing a message contrary to their beliefs.
If you are in a state, local, or federal building and simply holding a bible while conducting business there, no problem. If you are loitering, or somehow drawing attention to yourself for the purposes of pushing a religious message this may violate may other laws and privelages beyond freedom of speech and expression.
Also, if a school allows a bible study to occur, then they must also allow scientologists, mormons, jehovas witnesses, and neo nazis to participate under the veil of expression. They often ban that activity to protect themselves from other forms of intolerance and distraction.
The best thing to do is to ask the administrator of the property, if they say no, there is little you can do.
Reply:Non of your constituional rights are being "stepped on" The constituion grants citizens certain rights, however, holding a bible study in a public building is construed as a vioaltion of church and state.
Not being "allowed" to hold a Bible Study in a public bldg. is stepping on what Constitutional Law here?
If the public building is otherwise open for other civic groups, you CANNOT be prohibited from having Bible study there. Such a regulation violates the Free Speech, Free Assembly, and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Now, if (a) this is a school and the teacher is leading the Bible study, this MAY be prohibited in certain circumstances, and (b) if the public building does not normally allow people to have gatherings there, you don't have to be accommodated.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/rel_...
Reply:What if they wanted to study the Koran? Would you still be upset? The safe bet is to keep religion out of politics and politics out of religion.
Reply:Your right to the free practice of your religion is what is being violated.
Allowing religious groups to use otherwise unused public space THAT THEIR TAXES PAID FOR does not, in the mind of any rational or reasonable person, constitute establishment of a religion, by any stretch of the imagination.
If any other kind of group is allowed to meet there, then there is no reason religious groups should be prevented from meeting there.
Regardless of the ACLU and liberal judges trampling upon peoples' freedom to practice religion, the fact remains that allowing religious groups the same access to public buildings as non-religious groups is not violating any aspect of the Constitution. Period.
I have spoken.
Reply:If a public building allows religious meetings for one religion, then they would have to allow all of them. They'd have Islamic meetings, Wiccan meetings, Santoria meetings and so on. If they didn't do so, they could be accused of promoting a specific religion, which is against the law. Do you want the buildings you pay for through your taxes to be used to promote satanism, witchcraft, or animal sacrifice? If the answer is no, then you can't have Bible study in those buildings either.
Reply:You can Assymble anywhere You wish and Read Your Bible anytime, any place That includes the WORKPLACE!
The First Amendment
The Separation of Church and State is a quote From Thomas Jefferson the Buddhist, MEANING THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT INTERFERE OR MAKE LAWS TELLING CHURCHES WHAT TO TEACH,PREACH, or CHANGE THEIR DOCTRINAL BELIEFS! They CANNOT MAKE LAWS TO ARREST PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR Religious BELIEFS! There is NO GOVERNMENT MANDATED RELIGION EITHER. YOU ARE FREE NOT TO HAVE A RELIGION OR NOT PARTICIPATE IN ONE....Individuals and GROUPS Have the right to REDRESS government with their Religoius BELIEFS!
Get those Commies and Deport them to Mother Russia or Cuba where they will be Happier or give them to Hugo Chavez so he can bore them to death with his Nightly Bedtime stories of how wonderful he is as their god! And BELIEVE In Nothing, except wht the STATE tells them!
Reply:most misinterpreted amendment ever. It was meant to stop the government from establishing a state religion, to keep it from banning religions. If any other group is allowed to use the room, keeping a religious group from using it as well is a violation
Reply:I don't see a big deal in holding a bible study class in a public building. It is really not establishing a religion by the gov. I presume they're paying rent to use the facility. There are several "churchs" (catholic and otherwise) that started holding services in a public grade or high-school until their church was built. One cannot reasonably argue that the public/gov is establishing a religion in that case. Now, like in texas, if they want to have public school classes on bible study- I have an issue with that.
Reply:Freedom of association: 1st Amendment.
Reply:should have paid attention in high school government class sweetie...
Reply:There is a thing called SEPERATION of Church and State in our land.....
Reply:May I refer you to the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
Reply:People, I realize some of you are very passionate about what you believe in, but can you please THINK before you post? Please?
You should be able to practice your religion anywhere you want? Anywhere? Really? Stop for a minute and reflect on how ludicrous this statement is. You sure can't practice your religion in my house. You can't hold a Bible study in the middle of an Interstate highway. You can't hold it in the White House (and I mean, you, you personally). You can't hold it in a synagogue.
Let's get the three ground rules straight here: (1) There is no general Consitutional right to do whatever you want anywhere you want anytime you want to do it. Trust me, there isn't. (2) Even if you do have a Constitutional right to do something, that still does not entail the right to do it anywhere you want, anytime you want, and in any manner you want. Trust me, it doesn't. (3) It is the job of the courts -- not the public, and certainly not the church -- to interpret the Constitution. That too is in the Constitution.
Time and again, the courts have interpreted the First Amendment to mean that the government is prohibited from establishing a state religion. Proclaiming a religion as such isn't the only way to "establish" it. Publicly endorsing one religion over others, and providing it with preferential access to government facilities and services are also tantamount to establishing it as a "state religion". Accordingly, the government has a dilemma: it must either accommodate all religions equally, or accommodate no one. So, back to what the EDUCATED posters here said: if you want to hold your Bible study in the public building, you have to live with the fact that Muslims, Jews, Wiccans, Santorians, Animists, and Voodoo practitioners will also hold their religious activities in that same building. Don't like it? Then rent a private space to practice your religion, like everyone else.
Let me restate once again: It is the specific job of the courts to interpret the Constitution. It is neither illegal nor otherwise wrong for the Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution; it is the courts' job. And, contrary to what the subsequent poster said, the Supreme Court has not enacted any laws establishing any religion as the national religion.
Added: Of course, Congress would not be making a decision here as to who should be allowed to worship in a public building. But Congress does make laws that require people to fund public buildings. Therefore, granting preferential access to those buildings to members of one sect would in fact require everyone -- by act of Congress -- to contribute to that sect financially. If a church tax isn't an "establishment of religion", I don't know what is.
Reply:"Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Amendment I of the Bill of Rights to the Constitution.
Reply:None. there is NO separation of church and state other than a reference by (I think) Thomas Jefferson in a letter, where he stated that the STATE shall not interfere with the business of the church, NOT vise versa, as the liberals are making it out to be.
No where in the constitution will you find a separation of church and state. It is a conceived notion that has snowballed over the years.
I am not saying that the church should run the government by any means, but the government is trying to run the church by mandating what they can preach, whom they HAVE to marry or allow in positions of authority within the church, ect.
So far they have failed, but they keep trying from time to time.
It's all showing how close we are to the rapture and the begining of the end.
You do need to respect the wishes of those in charge of the building, but if it's a public building for public use, you are within your rights to have a bible study as long as they are allowing other organizations to use it.
Reply:It depends on the "public building" your in. If it's a privately owned building, then the owner may have the right to evict anyone they wish, especially if you are pushing a message contrary to their beliefs.
If you are in a state, local, or federal building and simply holding a bible while conducting business there, no problem. If you are loitering, or somehow drawing attention to yourself for the purposes of pushing a religious message this may violate may other laws and privelages beyond freedom of speech and expression.
Also, if a school allows a bible study to occur, then they must also allow scientologists, mormons, jehovas witnesses, and neo nazis to participate under the veil of expression. They often ban that activity to protect themselves from other forms of intolerance and distraction.
The best thing to do is to ask the administrator of the property, if they say no, there is little you can do.
Reply:Non of your constituional rights are being "stepped on" The constituion grants citizens certain rights, however, holding a bible study in a public building is construed as a vioaltion of church and state.
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