Has anyone done the bible study at amazing facts.com?

I am curious what did you think of it?





i think there is a lot of valuable information. But i have been totally confused since I did this study.( Its put on by seventh day adventists)


They pretty much say that we are still bound by the old laws like not eating pork or other unclean animals. We should follow the sabbath which is actually saturday etc..


I think it is all fine and good they have so many scriptures to back things up.





But i also hear many others talk about how after Jesus died we are no longer bond by the law. If you confess with your mouth jesus is Lord you are saved.


But we are also to follow in Christ's footsteps. He obeyed the law and followed the sabbath.





Any thoughts on this?





I am truly a God fearing, loving Christian who is looking for real answers.


Thanks

Has anyone done the bible study at amazing facts.com?
I have done the study


I would like to help, What part of it is confusing feel free to email me





Yes, many people say that since Jesus died we don't have to keep the 10 commandments?


But... if you ask them "Is it ok to murder" they say "No"


"Is it ok to steal" etc. they always say we should keep the commandments... until you ask about the Sabbath. Then people say "We don't have to keep the law, we are under grace, just believe in Jesus." but does believing in Jesus mean we don't have to keep the commandments?


"Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." Romans 3:31





Many people say "Just believe in God don't worry about obeying Him"


But what does Jesus say


"Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" Luke 6:46


There are people who say "Yes I am a Christian" but they don't obey God





Again Jesus talks about people who say "Forget the law"


"Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice LAWLESSNESS.” Luke 7:22-23





Many believe that we should not murder


They believe that we should not steal


They believe that we should not lie


They believe that we should not commit adultery


They believe that we should not be covetous


They believe that we should honor our parents


They believe that we should not worship other gods


They believe that we should not worship idols


They believe that we should not take the Lord's name in vain.





They believe we should keep 9 of the 10 commandments but they think we should forget the only commandment that starts with "REMEMBER".





Many people say keeping the Sabbath is legalism


Is it legalism to keep the other 9 commandments? Is it legalism to obey God? Again, if God tells us to do something is it legalism to obey?





If we don't do what God says isn't that sin?


For example


Look at Cain and Abel


"I know God wants an animal sacrifice, but I am going to bring fruits, stop being legalistic Abel."


Was Cain right? Or should he have done what God said?


Doing what God said is not called legalism it is called obedience. When people do not do what God says that is not called living under grace it is called SIN, and sinners will always try to make you feel guilty when you Obey God and do what God says.








NO ONE is saved by keeping the commandments. We are saved by grace... BUT if you know the commandment says keep the Sabbath Holy and you choose to willfully break the law Hebrews 10:26 says that


"For if we sin WILFULLY after that we have received the knowledge of the TRUTH, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries."





Ephesians 2:15 Col 2:16


This verse does not talk about the 7th day sabbath. It talks about ceremonial Sabbaths like Passover and the Day of Atonement





How do we know this?


"These are only a shadow of what is TO COME; but the substance belongs to Christ." 2:17


vs 17says that it points FORWARD to Christ


Passover points FORWARD to Jesus and the New Covenant


The Day of Atonement points FORWARD to Jesus dying on the cross.


BUT the 7th day Sabbath points BACK to creation.





All of the texts from Galatians are saying that no one is saved because they keep the law, we are saved by knowing and loving Jesus and trusting in His sacrifice. We are saved by Jesus. Still Jesus says “If you love me keep my commandments” John 15. You keep the commandments out of Love NOT in order to fain salvation.





I disagree with sunestauromai’s comment “They CLAIM that the church of the first century met on Saturday which is NOT TRUE”. The Bible CLEARLY says the apostles kept the Sabbath after Jesus went to Heaven


Acts 13:14


Acts 13:42


Acts 13:44


Acts 16:13


Acts 17:1-4


Acts 18:4


Did the Seventh-Day Adventist Church make it up or is it in the Bible? It’s the Bible there is no way around the fact that the apostles kept the Sabbath.





"Here is the patience of the saints, here are those who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and the faith of Jesus." Rev.14:12





Who gets eternal life?


"Blessed are those who DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city." Rev. 22:14





This video should help you understand the Sabbath better


http://www.forestlakechurch.org/upload/m...





2 Timothy 3:16


16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness





1)All Scripture is God-breathed- all scripture comes from God through the men who wrote it The real author of the Bible is God.





2) And is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness – all of the scripture should be used because we can learn from all of it








email me if you have other questions.
Reply:As for the Sabbath....Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath. What does that mean? It means we have our Sabbath rest in Him. We celebrate the Sabbath every time we dwell on the things which God has done for us and the things which He continues to do. It's not a day. It's every second of every day. When you pray to Him, when you listen for His guidance, when you praise and honor Him...that is celebrating the Sabbath. People are so confused by this Sabbath question, I just don't understand?? It's Saturday, no, it's Sunday?? The Lord Jesus Christ has already risen! Your Sabbath rest is with and in Him! You are not alone, many don't understand this. 7th Day Adventists are particularly screwed up. I personally opt to stay away from anything they have to offer.





Mark 2:27 -


And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.





Romans 6:14 -


For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace
Reply:We are not under Law but Grace. Read classic Christianity by Bob George. Also look up Grace and Law in a Bible concordance.
Reply:I do my Bible study with Dr. J. Vernon McGee at ttb.org. He is on the radio but if you miss him you can go online to hear his teachings. He is excellent. He believes that the whole Word of God is true, interesting teaching in Jonah. We are no longer bound to the old laws, but we are expected to produce good fruit.If you listen to this teacher, right now he is in Luke, you will receive much knowledge about Jesus and our relationship to Him.God Bless.
Reply:No, I have not done the study. Sorry.
Reply:Ephesians 2:15 Through his body on the cross, Christ put an END to the LAW WITH ALL ITS COMMANDS AND RULES. He wanted to create one new group of people out of the two. He wanted to make peace between them.





Colossians 2:14 He wiped out the written Law with its rules. The Law was against us. It opposed us. He took it away and nailed it to the cross.





Galatians 2:16 ...No one can be made right with God by obeying the law.





Galatians 2:21 ...What if a person could become right with God by obeying the law? Then Christ died for nothing!





Galatians 5:4 Some of you are trying to be made right with God by obeying the law. You have been separated from Christ. You have fallen away from God’s grace... The ONLY verse that talks about falling from grace, and they did it by trying to follow the law!





Jesus said he didn’t come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. (Matt 5:17) The effect was the same. Once fulfilled it was no longer in effect. The very next verse, Matthew 5:18, looks forward to the time when the law would be set aside. "...Not even the smallest stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED."





On the cross, Jesus' last recorded saying, "It is finished," is an important milestone. Because of Jesus life, Satan had been defeated. The law was finished and would no longer stand between God and mankind.





The 10 commandments along with the rest of the law ("commands and rules" from Ephesians 2:15) were "set aside" when they were fulfilled or completed at Jesus' resurrection. We are no longer bound by that law.





---%26gt; They CLAIM that the church of the first century met on Saturday which is NOT TRUE. Their claim that it was changed several centuries later does not hold water when Justin Martyr and Tertullian BOTH wrote of Christians "celebrating" Sunday several centuries before their supposed change.





Justin Martyr, First Apology, ch 67, 156 A.D. "And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things."





Tertullian, Ad Nationes, ch 13, c.200 A.D. "Others, with greater regard to good manners, it must be confessed, suppose that the sun is the god of the Christians, because it is a well-known fact that we pray towards the east, or because we make Sunday a day of festivity."
Reply:beware of the cults.
Reply:Have you seen the cholesterol in pork and do you really want to eat a mouse of bug. Sorry I will be serious





If you read in Acts and the letters of Paul you will see that the Gentiles were not held to the same laws, but that was a decision made by men. However Jesus said that what a man eats does not make a man unclean but his heart.





Mark 7


17After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable.


18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?


19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")


20He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' 21For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery,


22greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly.


23All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.' "





I think it is OK to eat them but just looking at it from a health standpoint I have heard it said that the diet given to the Jews is about the most healthy.
Reply:Yeah. They live in a land of Legalism. Stay away. And as St. Paul said, "Therefore let no one pass judgement on you in questions of food or drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." [Col. 2:16-17]





Amen!
Reply:If you know GOD's Word you would know that the Sabbath means Seventh or the seventh day of the week. We have come to see the sabbath as Sunday. GOD said we were to have a sabbath rest i Hebrews. In other words we are to work 6 days and rest one day. It does not matter what the daY is but we are to rest one day of our work week.
Reply:yes they go by the old law still which is really silly since Jesus came to set us free from all the bondage that it carried....I don't believe as they do and don't give them any of my time or attention

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