Thursday, August 19, 2010

Study (Bible and LDS)?

As someone who really has no background on the bible at all, how do I go about studying it?


Also I'm a recent LDS convert so I would appreciate some help on the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price.

Study (Bible and LDS)?
pray before you read, and just dive in. You can look in the topical guide and read the refrences it lists if you are looking for a specific topic, and you can go to ensign or an lds online bookstore to get study guides. but really it's a personal thing. Let the things jump out at you, and highlight them. it's interesting to go back and see what touched you so much about a verse. write in the blank spaces of what you think the verse means, take notes, and try to go to a institute class. i learned so much in that class! it was wonderful. Good luck, and just pray that you might have the spirit with you while you search the scriptures. there is no right or wrong way how to do it! i think it's great that you want to learn so much, and you are an example to me and others who really need to dive into our own scriptures a little more often with intent to study them! :) so thanks!
Reply:Read Genesis-Exodus. Then the book of judges. Then the entire NT and you will see the pattern. Then read the rest of the Bible just so youre familiar with it.





If youd like to discuss any doctrine or covenant feel freee to email me.
Reply:For a while I kept a scripture journal. I would keep it with me while I read my scriptures. If any particular insight or thoughts came to me while I was studying, I would write them in the journal. Sometimes, I would have tons of insights, and sometimes not much. On the days when I did not have much insight I would just summarize what I read. The way I kept my journal was that I wrote the date and chapters that I was reading. I found that while I was doing this, my scrpiture study was very meaningful. I got lazy and quit using the journal- I need to get back to doing that.





Using a scripture highlighter is good too. Then you highlight verses that jump out and have special meaning to you. I would suggest you use a highlighter designed for scriptures- regular highlighters will bleed through the page. You can go to Deseret Book or Seagull Book or www.deseretbook.com or www.Seagullbook.com. Seagull usually has lower prices. You may also be able to find scripture markers through your local distribution center or www.LDS.org





Also if Institute is offered where you live, there is a great class that is offered, I think it is called "Effective Methods for Studying the Scriptures" I would recommend taking that class. You can look for local institute classes at LDS.ORG- I think there is a CES section.
Reply:Get your hands on a "Book of Mormon for families". same text, but there are explanations of peoples, places, definitions, etc. Lots of pictures too.





As for the bible, I'd start out by reading the new testament. As far as the old testament goes, I'd get a study guide.





You might also consider doing topic studies. Look up something like "prayer" in the topical guide and read various scriptures about it. Study it as though you were going to teach a lesson in church on that topic.
Reply:Get a copy of the 4 standard works, as published by the Church (if you don't have 'em already). Then you can have access to things like the footnotes, chapter headings, Bible Dictionary, and Topical Guide. I've always found them to be quite helpful.





It can also help to ask questions in Sunday School, and of other members as well.
Reply:ask your missionaries if they have a break down on how many chapters to read in a day for you to read it in a year. also if you attend seminary classes or ask your bisho if he has any institutes close by that you can attend to. Also ask your bishop if they have any seminary workbooks that you could use so you could study at a textbook level. Um... yeah good luck thats all I can think of.
Reply:To start the Bible, I would suggest reading Genesis and Exodus first for a good background, then John in the New Testament.





The first time studying the Book of Mormon, I would just read it straight through, maybe skipping 2 Nephi 6-25 or so. A lot of people get stuck there.





The Doctrine and Covenants is best studied by topic. There are some great sections about the priesthood, missionary work, prayer, the plan of salvation.





The Pearl of Great Price is another that is best read through to begin with.
Reply:Sorry, as an ex-mormon and having read the mormon sacred scripture three times I got no rhema out of them, I was put to sleep tho, when I left the church, and read the christian bible, a whole new world was open up to me and I got all kinds of rhemas.


By contrast, the Logos (λόγος), is typically used in Scripture to refer to what God has said to His people, that is, the collection of God's sayings about Himself, His relationship with His creation and His Church. The Logos of God is true for all time and in all places. It is easy to see how this can be interpreted both as the bible (God's Word Written) and in the Person of Jesus Christ (God's Word in the Flesh) as seen in John's Gospel, Chapter 1.





The Holy Spirit often uses passages in the Logos of God to create specific guidance, Rhema, for the individual. An example of the Rhema of God is to consider how several different people can read the same passage of Scripture and each sees something different. This occurs because each person is in a different place spiritually in their individual lives so God's word to each of them in that moment of their lives is different - specific to their needs. The Logos (God's original meaning and intention) has not changed, but the Holy Spirit has used it to speak to each according to his or her needs





Evangelical Christians, however, have a much different understanding of rhema. Many evangelicals see rhema as being almost synonymous with logos. In other words, the specific guidance we receive from the Holy Spirit at any given time can only be discerned by the general principles laid down in the written word - the Bible. But this sort of guidance is not the same as that described above - it can only give general guidance about how the decision should be made. If we used the same example of the Christian wondering about when to start their business, the evangelical would argue that God will not give any specific guidance - it is up to the person to work it out for themselves. What God can give guidance on is on how that business should be run, and what the business actually does (Running a Brothel, for instance, would be wrong).





For evangelicals, then, the rhema is when God speaks directly to a person as they apply the Bible's teaching to a specific subject. Some Evangelicals do not believe that the Christian may make up his own mind when there is no Biblical teaching on a situation. However, this will never come up because these Evangelicals believe that there is a biblical teaching on every situation, specific or otherwise
Reply:Can't help you with the bible, as the mormons use only the KJV. The Book of Mormon has modern English 'translations' available but none are sanctioned by the church. "Having Visions" is an example. The Doctrine of Covenants is interpreted by Joseph Fielding Smith's trilogy "Doctrines of Salvation", and is easier to understand.





The Pearl of Great Price's Book of Abraham is best translated by Egyptologists who have extracted a much different message. Joseph Smith's history presented is also quite different than the gentile (and thus 'anti') historical documents suggest.





You probably should've done this research way before you got baptized.
Reply:try finding someone to study with, and you can ask that person your questions.





gw
Reply:Didn't the LDS Missionaries give you some guidance on this issue? Anyways, a great site for a new lds convert is www.utlm.org





There you will find lots of great resources about investigating the bible and the lds scritpures.
Reply:Recommend that you read the Book of Galatians right before you read the Book of Mormon. That helped me to understand it better.





But, before you read anything, you should read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Reply:The Church has study guides that go with each collection of scripture that are used in the corresponding Sunday School and Institute class. I would recommend getting those online at ldscatalog.com or from the local Distribution Center (located near the temple.)
Reply:Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses.


First Roman Catholic Bible was published at Rheims in 1582.


Second one published at Douay in 1609.


These called RCV version of Bible.


The Protestants regarded 7 books as ‘apocrypha’ (doubtful authority) and removed them from Bible. (The Book of Judith, The Book of Tobias, The Book of Baruch, The Buck of Esther, etc.)


Jesus pbuh said in the book of Revelation Chapter 22 Verse 18-19 ". . . If any man shall add to these things (or delete) God shall add unto him the plagues written in this Book."


On deleting 7 books from bible, the Catholics call ‘cult of Christianity’ to the Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses.





Confliction in Bible


II Samuel 8:4 (vs) II Samuel 8:9-10 II Kings 8:26


II Samuel 6:23 Genesis 6:3 John 5:37


John 5:31 I Chronicles 18:4 I Chronicles 18:9-10


II Chronicles 22:2 II Samuel 21:8 Genesis 9:29


John 14:9 John 8:14





Confusion in Bible


Only two contradictions of the New Testament have been mentioned, but others will be referenced when the Trinity, Divinity of Jesus Christ, Divine Sonship of Jesus, Original Sin and Atonement are reviewed.


How could the "inspired words" of God get the genealogy of Jesus incorrect (See Matthew 1:6-16 where it states 26 forefathers up to Prophet David, and Luke 3:23-31 says 41 in number). Or for that matter, give a genealogy to Jesus who had NO father? See II Kings 19:1-37, now read Isaiah 37:1-38. Why is it that the words of these verse are identical? Yet they have been attributed to two different authors, one unknown and the other is Isaiah, who are centuries apart; and yet, the Christians have claimed these books to be inspired by God.


I looked up the word Easter in the Nelson Bible dictionary and learned that the word "Easter" (as mentioned in Acts 12:4) is a mistranslation of "pascha," the ordinary Greek word for "Passover." As, you know Passover is a Jewish celebration not a Christian holiday. I think human hands, all to human, had played havoc with the Bible.


From the brief points mentioned above, and the fact that Biblical scholars themselves have recognized the human nature and human composition of the Bible (Curt Kuhl, The Old Testament: Its Origin and Composition, PP 47, 51, 52), there should exist in the Christian’s mind some acceptance to the fact that maybe every word of the Bible is not God’s word.


As a side note to this subject, let me mention that some Christians believe that the Bible was dictated to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) by a Christian monk, and that is why some of the biblical accounts are in the Quran. After some research, I found that this could not have happened because there were no Arabic Bible in existence in the 6th century of the Christian era when Muhammad (SAW) lived and preached. Therefore, no Arab, not even Prophet Muhammad (SAW) who was absolutely unlettered and unlearned, would have had the opportunity to examine the written text of the Bible in his own language.


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